My wife works in the courthouse, and noticed a couple of deputys in the lobby, and a clerk, asked whassup?? two muzzleloaders to be auctioned off,, both CVAs, one hunterbolt, and one kentucky rifle both 50cal.. no one showed up (poorly advertised), and she bid $25 each, the only bid, and brought 'em home to me.. Aint she sweet??? I have tried shooting the HB, and the best load I can come up with is 90gr FFF goex behind a .015 patched 490rb.. 2" groups at 50 yds.. I have some sabots on order, and my new Sidekick arrived this evening, so I'll try some more loads when I get some daylite...Les