Author Topic: Puma M92 (Read 2203 times)

Doctor Sam · « **on:** November 26, 2004, 07:03:05 PM »

Any of you gentlemen know what the black "stuff" is on the blackened stocks on these carbines? I am assuming that this is applied to hide a very plain walnut(?) stock. How deep does it penetrate and what is the best way to remove it to refinish the wood?

What are your recommendations for replacing the factory sights?

Many thanks.
Doctor Sam

jd45 · « **Reply #1 on:** November 27, 2004, 02:17:02 AM »

I've got a used Puma 92 in .45 Colt on layaway at Gander Mountain(am paying $300 for it) & intend to put a Williams Fool-Proof receiver sight on it. Don't yet know what front sight, maybe a fiber-optic. I'll keep you posted.jd45.

DEANO · « **Reply #2 on:** November 27, 2004, 05:53:26 AM »

Doc,
I put a short Marble's silver bead on the front (do not know what exact number it is, it was just stuff pulled off a gun a long time ago) and a Ruger rear sight. Are you familiar with the flip up-down rear sight they have on the Ruger 10/22 rifles? Well, that is it, and it is made my Lyman(don't know the model number). These really improve the my opininion of the gun, because if the sights suck, the gun sucks.(and the Rossi 92 standard sights DO suck) I am happy with mine now, and impressed with the way this little gun handles, functions, and shoots. I especially like the screw out magazine tube for unloading/loading. Mine is a stainless .454 20". I agree that the wood sucks as well, but it is functional, and it is my truck gun anyway.

jd45 · « **Reply #3 on:** November 29, 2004, 01:30:33 AM »

Can someone enlighten me as to the difference, if any, between the Legacy/Puma 92 and a Rossi 92 Win replica rifle? Thanx, jd45.

Graybeard · « **Reply #4 on:** November 29, 2004, 03:27:45 AM »

Rossi is the manufacturer of them. Legacy Sports International (LSI) is one importer of them. Puma is the name on the LSI imports. There are other importers of them just like LSI and each has their own minor variations of them. For instance EMF (which I believe is perhaps the best of them) doesn't have the silly little safety lever on top of bolt. Navy is another importer of them as is Taylor's.

HipShot · « **Reply #5 on:** November 29, 2004, 04:00:36 AM »

I'd be leary of stripping the wood. You may find that the stocks don't match.

WD45 · « **Reply #6 on:** November 29, 2004, 04:22:56 AM »

The stock on mine definately is NOT walnut. Walnut is a very hard wood and the stock on mine is so soft it dents or scratches just looking at it :x
It kind of looks like poplar but is probably some cheap south american soft wood that soaks up stain like a sponge. You may lighten it up some by a little light sanding with very fine grit paper or steel wool. Other than that you are going to need a stain stripper which may or may not take all of the stain out due to the softness of the wood.

Doctor Sam · « **Reply #7 on:** December 17, 2004, 06:57:20 PM »

Thanks, Gentlemen. Somewhere around here I have a semi-inletted set of fair Claro walnut stock and fore end for a M92. I will start looking.
Dr. Sam

clodbuster · « **Reply #8 on:** December 18, 2004, 09:46:29 AM »

I have to respectfully disagree that walnut is a very hard wood. Of the hardwood species its hardness is more in the middle and takes stain well. If the guns are made in S.A. it stands to reason they are stocked with wood from there. Just because its not american black walnut doesn't mean its not a good wood. I'd strip it and see what you have. Then you can always restain or just re-oil it if you like the natural look of the wood.

Leverdude · « **Reply #9 on:** December 18, 2004, 02:13:37 PM »

They call it a South American hardwood. Knew the name of it at one time but it escapes me at the moment. I'm speaking of EMF's Rossi which may well wear different wood than a LSI Puma. Mines a reddish brown I kinda like. I may strip it one day & see if I can make it better but theres a few projects that will come first.

luv45 · « **Reply #10 on:** December 22, 2004, 12:59:46 PM »

Quote from: Graybeard

Rossi is the manufacturer of them. Legacy Sports International (LSI) is one importer of them. Puma is the name on the LSI imports. There are other importers of them just like LSI and each has their own minor variations of them. For instance EMF (which I believe is perhaps the best of them) doesn't have the silly little safety lever on top of bolt. Navy is another importer of them as is Taylor's.

I am thinking I just have to have one of these guns. My question, if you had the chance would you buy the hartford in 45lolong colt or the .454 in the puma?

Graybeard · « **Reply #11 on:** December 22, 2004, 06:23:00 PM »

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I am thinking I just have to have one of these guns. My question, if you had the chance would you buy the hartford in 45lolong colt or the .454 in the puma?

I reckon what I'd do shouldn't have too much bearing on what YOU should do. But to answer the question more directly I'd buy the .45 Colt. I just have no personal need for the extra power of the .454 Casully. Remember that in a long gun like a rifle the .45 Colt with book loads for TC/Ruger guns will equal .454 Casull ballistics from handguns. In rounds like this velocity is NOT the answer. If you want or need more killing power move to a larger diameter and/or heavier bullet. Not to more velocity.

If I felt the .45 Colt wasn't enough I'd move to the .480 Ruger/.475 Linebaugh not tot he .454 Casull. But that's just me. You might not agree.

luv45 · « **Reply #12 on:** December 23, 2004, 05:50:02 AM »

Quote from: Graybeard

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I am thinking I just have to have one of these guns. My question, if you had the chance would you buy the hartford in 45lolong colt or the .454 in the puma?

I reckon what I'd do shouldn't have too much bearing on what YOU should do. But to answer the question more directly I'd buy the .45 Colt. I just have no personal need for the extra power of the .454 Casully. Remember that in a long gun like a rifle the .45 Colt with book loads for TC/Ruger guns will equal .454 Casull ballistics from handguns. In rounds like this velocity is NOT the answer. If you want or need more killing power move to a larger diameter and/or heavier bullet. Not to more velocity.

If I felt the .45 Colt wasn't enough I'd move to the .480 Ruger/.475 Linebaugh not tot he .454 Casull. But that's just me. You might not agree.

Thanks GB. I think I was just lookin for a little push that the 45lc was okay. Now that I be an ol guy, I am tired of packin my 300 win mag. and I want to pack a 92 on my 4wheeler for close shots at Elk. My long walkin days are about over if ya know what I mean.

Graybeard · « **Reply #13 on:** December 23, 2004, 06:41:06 AM »

Boy do I ever know well what you mean. Mine too.

The .45 Colt should do fine on elk inside 100 yards or so. I'd use bullets of 325-330 grains and hard cast if it were me. Pretty sure Creeker who is an advertiser here casts up a couple that should do well. Or if you cast your own the Lyman 452651 mould is excellent as is the LBT 330 WFN. Pushed to about 1400 fps or a bit more from a M92 it should go end to end thru an elk.

gk · « **Reply #14 on:** February 12, 2005, 07:59:36 PM »

Admittedly responding to an old topic/posts, but I think to clarify regarding current 92 imports (non Win/Japanese)--many of my comments pertain to carbines in particular, but pertain to most other models as well: Current importers of the Brazilian (Rossi) models are: Navy Arms, no safety, (stainless only now and purported walnut stocks?) mostly 45 LC and 357, EMF, no safety, 357, 44 mag, 45 LC and maybe (?) 44-40, in stainless, blue, case-hardened and brass variants plus a nice hardwood but of unknown (?) source (btw, great guns but doesn't keep up the site--i.e., the pics still show no saddle rings 3 years after EMF started adding them back on the guns, and the price list shows only the brass model avaialble as SRC-- case in point, I purchased a .44 mag, blue SRC a year ago. So don't settle for what the website tells you/go by their price list with the paper catalog),... and the LSI (Legacy Sports International) Puma with the oft-criticized safety, in (I believe) a variety of metal finishes and barrel types. All of these are great guns and finally (the carbines) have the correct front post site location (just in front of the barrel band, but not the ladder rear site most often found on the original Win 92 carbines). Also, Armi Sport is making the 02 available--presumably meaning Italian made?, in a variety of lengths and barrel types, via Taylor's as the importer. The Taylor's/Armi carbines, unlike the Rossis' notch or buckhorn, appear to have the more correct (again for carbines) ladder rear site, BUT inexplicably they have gone and placed the front post site on the barrel bands like Rossi did for 20+ years!#?! Nevertheless, apart from the presumed high quality and "original-like" look and feel the Italians have become known for (see any number of Uberti-sourced 73s), the big deal with the Armi (cum Taylor's) 92s is, at last, a wide selection of calibers including many not offered by Rossi--namely 38-40, 32-20 and the nifty modern 32 H&R Mag round, in addition to the expected 45 Colt, 44-40, 357. Finally a 92 you can pair with the slick Ruger Single Six .32 Mag! Oddly, Taylor's/Armi lists only the 44 SW (Special) and not the 44 Mag, although the 92 design is certainly strong enough to handle (as Rossi has proven for decades)--so don't know if the 44 Mag will chamber. So, bottom line: greatest selection now is EMF and Taylor's (Armi Sport). By the way, the latter also now offering the 92 in a slick takedown version (two barrel lengths and a gazillion calibers).