Thanks, dougk, for the reply. I've been wanting to know how these guns hold up. I talked to one gun store owner in Houston that said they are great working guns- not so pretty but do their jobs well. I hunt in Edwards County and during deer season you never know what will walk by. I shot a turkey last weekend with my .308 and there wasn't much left of the bird. Having a choice of shotgun and rifle would be ideal on my lease.