ORB,
I have a 20" Hornet (there's a picture of it on the "pics" thread) that really likes the 40 gr V-Max with 13.5 gr Lil'Gun and a small rifle primer in Rem brass. I load them long, 1.91", but the long throat on the NEF's will take it. Win brass holds a little less powder. I'm using a 4-12X 40 mm Red Head (Bass Pro Bushnell) and getting 1" or less at 100 yards with it. Until I got my .45/70 it was my favorite, after I got my .357 Mag, after I got my .223 Rem! They're addictive! :grin: