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Offline MIdeerhunter

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« on: December 06, 2004, 03:37:08 PM »
I think im going to do the barrel accesory program, i have a pardner 12 ga. that i want to put a muzzleloader barrel on, but i heard you can max out at 100grains of black powder, will this give you good enough velocity? and about how far can you effectively and ethicaly take a shot with this? I already have a muzzleloader but want a nef, but only 100grains is a draw back...is this enough powder to get the velocity and power you need?
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« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2004, 06:15:16 PM »
i killed 3 deer this year with 80 gr. rs and 250 gr sabot fastest kills ive ever seen with ft stuffers even carried during rifle season,..i liked it that well all mine were close shots but 30  to 40 yds but i didnt have to chase them..only one and it was shot tooo low but killed real quick...it only went 30 yds. :-D

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« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2004, 08:31:34 AM »
Many of the magnum muzzle loaders that you can load 150 grains in don't effectively burn all 150 grains.  100 grains is more than adequate.
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« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2004, 02:28:31 PM »
are the barreles made in the u.s or are they from another country? i have heard bad things about spanish barrels, i have a winchester which is made in spain, i like it but i want a nef, i think it is u.s. made but was just wondering if the nef b.p. barrels are american made? how do you like yours? and what kind of accuracy do you get out of them?
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rem. 870 supermag
ruger 10/22
win. x-150
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« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2004, 12:02:53 PM »
I've been MZ hunt'n for ten years and never shot more than 90gr. Killed every deer I shot at cleanly from 25 to 125 yards, iron sites stop me there. I would'nt shoot much over that without alot of range time.

A 150gr load is a moot point unless you plan on game larger than deer at ranges over 150 yards.

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« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2004, 04:35:09 PM »
While I don't have a lot of years under my belt with a muzzleloader, this will be my fifth year to use them on deer, and I've come to a couple conclusions.... Deer don't take magnum rifles/ or powder charges in order to kill.  In my opinion, the 150gr. capability is mostly for selling guns.  I've harvested 6 deer so far with muzzleloaders, and witnessed one other harvested with a muzzleloader.  All have been taken with either 80 or 85gr. of either pyrodex rs, or t7 ffg, and using bullets ranging from a 370gr maxi ball, down to a 45cal. round ball.  Probably the fastest to drop were with a 295gr. copper HP powerbelt (two with that bullet, and both dropped where they stood).  The majority have ran about 40 yds.  All the bullets except for one have exited, and the exception was the .45 cal. round ball(and it was found just under the hide on the off side...that shot was about 40yds. away).   To go along with that, the .45 ball was also the worst performer.  My dad used the same muzzleloader, and same load, hit the deer on the point of the shoulder, and it didn't penetrate to the vitals....led us on a 3hr. tracking job.  The lightest sabot that I have tried up to this point is a 260gr. platinum tip bullet, and they exited,  this year I plan on using t/c cheapshots, with 85gr. T7, and don't have any doubt in my mind that they will get the job done out to about 125yds, or a bit more.  The conclusion???.....use a 240gr. or heavier bullet of your choice, with 80gr. or more of your choice of powder, and keep it within 125yds, and you'll get an exit wound, dead deer, use less powder, and your shoulder will thank you...just my $.02 hopefully it wasn't too hard to understand.
 
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« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2004, 11:04:53 AM »
In two seasons , I have shot 3 does with the 50 cal Huntsman and the farthest being 85 yards. all 3 were complete pass throughs using  TC sabots with 240 gr Hornaday XTPs and 90 gr of loose 777 powder. I have three NEFs and for the price , why mess around swapping barrels !  :grin:
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