Author Topic: Rossi Single shot Rifles ? (Read 16316 times)

quickdtoo · « **Reply #30 on:** December 23, 2004, 08:58:55 AM »

Our local Bimart store just got a blued .22LR/410 youth combo in, looks like a nice little starter rifle, priced at $120. They had a sale going with all 22LR and .17Cal for $20 off, but the Rossi wasn't included, or I'd a got it!

single shot shooter · « **Reply #31 on:** December 23, 2004, 01:27:44 PM »

Brett,
.22/.410 stainless with synthetic stock? Got any pics of it? i've never heard or seen of one with synthetic. be a great all weather gun.
thanks in advance
SSS

quickdtoo · « **Reply #32 on:** December 23, 2004, 01:59:44 PM »

Quote from: single shot shooter

i understand your concern about the gun industry, but rossis are just as good as NEFs

If and when Rossi gets a barrel program going, I'll consider them, but until that time, they certainly aren't any competition to an H&R/NEF as far as I'm concerned.

http://www.rossiusa.com/main/barrel-program.cfm

single shot shooter · « **Reply #33 on:** December 23, 2004, 02:35:13 PM »

quick,
the rossis have many advantages over the nef/H&R if you ask me.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #34 on:** December 23, 2004, 02:41:48 PM »

Go on....inquiring minds want to know... :wink:

single shot shooter · « **Reply #35 on:** December 23, 2004, 02:57:33 PM »

well for instance,
They may not have the barrel program up but they still have a few advantages.

they are lighter
less expensive
shorter
and come from the factory in shotgun/centerfire sets

the larger frames dont looks quite as good as the nef but it dosent really matter what it looks like does it? It matters how it performs, and my .44 Rossis will shoot circles around my NEF .44. Not saying they are Truly of a higher standard than the nef's but if anything they are the same. I'm not slamming to H&R's becuase they are good guns but after a while in the woods the nef starts to weigh ya down, where the rossi don't. I am not abandoning my nef/H&R's either, because my 12 ga i own is a great gun. and i will soon be buying a 45-70 or .500 S&W. But i think of it this way, If i'm gonna carry something heavy I want to be able to shoot at least 175-200 yds. I mean why carry an 8 lb gun when you can carry a 5 lb gun that will do the job just as well?

I am aware this isnt a rossi forum, but for those who post here about the rossis i'm not going to turn my back and not reply just because this isnt a Rossi forum, instead i will help a fellow forum member with his problems or questions.

And i can understand why people would want to buy USA products, but most "U.S" products are made of parts manufactured in foreign countries. If someone asks about the rossis i will still encourage them to buy one, if they choose not to fine, thats thier own choice, I am a single shot shooter, I don't care if it's stevens, rossi, H&R/nef, mossberg, T/c, ect. I enjoy the sport of shooting single shots no matter what brand it is or where it is made.

This is just my 2 cents.

Mac11700 · « **Reply #36 on:** December 23, 2004, 03:16:32 PM »

SSS:

No one is telling you to turn your back on anyone...do you think that the good folks on the single shot forum would turn their backs on him??? I think not...the problem with the Rossi's is of the cheap labour that is used...and just to let you know...LOOKS DOES MATTER...as does fit and finish and reliabilty and the company standing behind their product...so far...I haven't seen anthing that would show they do as compared to NEF...if I'm wanting a Ultra Light rifle...and weight is the only issue...I'll slap a set of synthetic stocks on mine and be right down at you weight level...shotgun rifle combo...as cheap as the barrels are...that's not a real issue...and the do have a muzzelloader/rifle combo...was looking at one yesterday...243/50 cal......so...for my hard earned money...I'll buy what is the best value for a single shot...that's the NEF...not the Rossi...

Mac

single shot shooter · « **Reply #37 on:** December 23, 2004, 03:51:25 PM »

you all can buy what you want, i'm just voicing my opinion.
I know they make a muzzleloader/rifle combo but i meant a shotgun centerfire rifle combo. I dont care as much about looks as long is it does it's job wether it be punching a one hole group in paper or dropping a whitetail for the pot.
and i didnt mean that you guys were turning your backs,I'm tired of typing so i'm ending this conversation on this thread and will not post on it again. We all try to get along here and lets keep it that way.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #38 on:** December 23, 2004, 03:57:40 PM »

Thanks for the reply, SSS.

Tim

single shot shooter · « **Reply #39 on:** December 23, 2004, 04:00:45 PM »

no problem quick.

Mac11700 · « **Reply #40 on:** December 23, 2004, 05:58:33 PM »

Sorry SSS if you took what I said as a bad knock against the Rossi...they do fill a nitch...and..if they are anything like that other Brazilian hand gun company Tarus...I'm sure they will hang in there and get better over time...and give all of them a run for the money...

Mac

Paul5388 · « **Reply #41 on:** December 23, 2004, 06:35:39 PM »

Mac,

It seems like I have heard Rossi/Braztech is owned by Taurus.

I think I have weighed all of my Handi's and they, whether wood or synthetic, all are over 7 pounds with scope added.

Mac11700 · « **Reply #42 on:** December 23, 2004, 06:48:36 PM »

Paul:

If they are owned by Tarus...then it shouldn't be too long before they really start improving on their products...

Mac

Brett · « **Reply #43 on:** December 24, 2004, 02:58:56 AM »

If my memmory serves me correctly Taurus and Rossi merged under the Braztech banner making them sister companies much like H&R and Marlin. And yes I have seen great improvements in quality & innovation from both makers in just the past few years.

This is the last I will comment on these guns on this forum because some of the folks here feel that it is inappropriate to mention any gun maker other than H&R/NEF on this forum and I don't wish to rock the boat.

Merry CHRISTmas to you all and if you have some time off next week get out and bust a few 'caps' in those single shots for me.

Brett · « **Reply #44 on:** December 24, 2004, 03:59:33 AM »

Holy single shots!.... I just discovered that this whole string has been moved to a new forum dedicated to Rossi Firearms. Thanks GB. Oh, I guess you can disregard the part about not commenting about Rossi's on this forum in my previous post because that was made back when it was that forum. Uh, did you follow that?

Mac11700 · « **Reply #45 on:** December 24, 2004, 04:42:05 AM »

It just goes to show you all...what a great guy Greybeard is...and that he Listens to your request....

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year...

Mac

.308 · « **Reply #46 on:** December 24, 2004, 07:01:44 AM »

Quote from: Brett

Holy single shots!.... I just discovered that this whole string has been moved to a new forum dedicated to Rossi Firearms. Thanks GB. Oh, I guess you can disregard the part about not commenting about Rossi's on this forum in my previous post because that was made back when it was that forum. Uh, did you follow that?

Me too!!! I thought I was seeing things. :oops: Thanks GB. You're on the ball. Merry Christmas to you sir, and all the folks here. I hope Santa is extra good to all ya'll.

gwhilikerz · « **Reply #47 on:** December 24, 2004, 09:50:17 AM »

Quote from: quickdtoo

Quote from: single shot shooter
i understand your concern about the gun industry, but rossis are just as good as NEFs

If and when Rossi gets a barrel program going, I'll consider them, but until that time, they certainly aren't any competition to an H&R/NEF as far as I'm concerned.

http://www.rossiusa.com/main/barrel-program.cfm

I have been waiting a long time for that Rossi barrel program.

poncaguy · « **Reply #48 on:** January 08, 2005, 10:20:43 AM »

I have a Handi 243 and Rossi 223 HB and Rossi 17 HMR. All very good except 17 HMR Rossi has a 1000 lb trigger pull but shoots accurate. Triggers and accuracy on other two are excellant :shock:

poncaguy · « **Reply #49 on:** February 16, 2005, 12:18:36 PM »

My 223 heavy barrel Rossi is really shooting good now. Wish I could say the same for my 243 Handi...........

Uncle Ji · « **Reply #50 on:** March 31, 2005, 01:04:36 PM »

I bought a stainless steel Rossi in .357 mag several months ago, a very decent gun at a very decent price, not perfect but decent. Here are 2 gripes, 1: one of pins in the frame was loose enough that tapping the side of the receiver would back this pin out so i'm sure firing it would have made the pin fall out and likely get lost if I did not discover this flaw before shooting, and remedy suing Lock-Tite. 2: this model came with the worse set of factory sites I have ever seen with rear being cheap plastic, and adjustable only for windage. Remedied this by dumping the factory rear sight, and installing a rear sight from a T/C Contender which fits perfectly. I picked this up on ebay for $5.00 I haven't tried it yet with new rear sight which looks a tad taller than old sight. If need be I have a taller front sight from a Rem. 788 that looks like it will fit perfectly. This is my truck/boat gun made for rough & tumble use. FYI Many accessories for the T/C Contender fit the Rossi including scope bases, and rear sights. I'll provise a range report ASAP with new sights installed.

FirstFreedom · « **Reply #51 on:** July 22, 2005, 04:21:46 AM »

One distinct advantage in my mind that Rossis have over NEF is that their hammer spurs are angled more straight-back, and less *up* than the Handis, which allows you to get a scope down much lower. NEF should do this...

Quote

There made like that to shoot around trees,Thats why I bought one !

Bwahaha!

Big Red Trike · « **Reply #52 on:** July 30, 2005, 08:28:14 AM »

:? I own a Rossi combo .243 & 50cal. After firing a .243 round the gun barley removes the spent case from the chamber, most times you need to use a plier to pull out the spent case.

I have previously owned a H&R when you opened the action after firing a shell the case was completely removed from the chamber and flung across the yard.

My question is DOES THE ROSSI EXTRACTOR HAVE THE SAME ABILITY?

DO I NEED TO POLISH THE CHAMBER TO HAVE THE CASE EXTRACTED FAR ENOUGH SO PLIERS AREN:T NEEDED?

HAS ANYONE ELSE COME ACROSS THIS ISSUE? :eek:

THANKS

BRT

poncaguy · « **Reply #53 on:** July 30, 2005, 09:34:51 AM »

Try different ammo polish,

chamber, Rossi has a extractor, not an exjector.....some Handi's are ejectors now......

maglvr44 · « **Reply #54 on:** November 26, 2008, 09:58:21 PM »

Quote from: Broken-arrow on December 07, 2004, 03:22:17 PM

I own a Rossi and its a fine little rifle. If NEF would put a little American PRIDE into their products they could build probably some fine little rifles too.

American "pride" from NEF? Surely you are joking! I'd sooner bet on the Titanic surfacing on the whitehouse lawn! Since Marlin got their hands on that grand old company, started in 1871 they have done nothing but downgrade the products to the junk they are today! I can install sights with a hand drill better than they can with all that machinery! Quality control at H&R/NEF is not the problem, you have to have some quality before it can actually be controlled! The single shot Rossi's blow the Marlin/H&R/NEF, third rate products right out of the water! Sad too in a way, underwater is where they should remain!

Spanky · « **Reply #55 on:** November 28, 2008, 10:19:51 AM »

Quote from: maglvr44 on November 26, 2008, 09:58:21 PM

Quote from: Broken-arrow on December 07, 2004, 03:22:17 PM
I own a Rossi and its a fine little rifle. If NEF would put a little American PRIDE into their products they could build probably some fine little rifles too.
American "pride" from NEF? Surely you are joking! I'd sooner bet on the Titanic surfacing on the whitehouse lawn! Since Marlin got their hands on that grand old company, started in 1871 they have done nothing but downgrade the products to the junk they are today! I can install sights with a hand drill better than they can with all that machinery! Quality control at H&R/NEF is not the problem, you have to have some quality before it can actually be controlled! The single shot Rossi's blow the Marlin/H&R/NEF, third rate products right out of the water! Sad too in a way, underwater is where they should remain!

Mag,

Those are some pretty harsh words for the Handi.
Out of curiousity... Do you own any H&R products??
I have 2 Rossi's and a bunch of Handi's and I like them both.
I think the Rossi's have a better safety. (especially for teaching youths how to shoot)
My H&R's and Rossi's both shoot equally well... (my 30-30 Handi is probably the best of them all)
H&R products are better looking in my opinion... (nicer wood and more "streamlined" look)
All in all though I can't really bash either product in terms of functionality... they all function flawlessly.
I'm not sure what you mean when you say that the H&R's have been downgraded to junk status.
The company seems to be making constant improvements to the lineup.
The .44 mags are shooting well now... new synthetic stock sets... an all stainless 45-70... very nice looking thumbhole stock sets... chamberings not available in the Rossi lineup... the list goes on...
H&R has the barrel accessory plan. (though it is sometimes flawed... at least it's available)
Rossi has promised a barrel accessory plan but is yet to be seen.
Rossi's do have one feature that I think is better than H&R... The hammers are at a much lower angle allowing the use of lower rings without modification to the hammer.
Standard stock sets from both companies are not exactly the prettiest thing. (crappy stain jobs)... but at this price point what do you want??
H&R does have some very nice laminate sets for upgrading and Rossi does not.
I could go on with little things but the point is... Both are appealing to different people for different reasons.
I think both companies offer good, solid, dependable products at reasonable prices.
Certainly though... Neither deserves to be labeled as "junk"

Just my 2 cents... Not everyone will agree with me and that's OK.

Spanky

maglvr44 · « **Reply #56 on:** December 10, 2008, 10:04:15 PM »

Quote from: Spanky on November 28, 2008, 10:19:51 AM

Quote from: maglvr44 on November 26, 2008, 09:58:21 PM
Quote from: Broken-arrow on December 07, 2004, 03:22:17 PM
I own a Rossi and its a fine little rifle. If NEF would put a little American PRIDE into their products they could build probably some fine little rifles too.
American "pride" from NEF? Surely you are joking! I'd sooner bet on the Titanic surfacing on the whitehouse lawn! Since Marlin got their hands on that grand old company, started in 1871 they have done nothing but downgrade the products to the junk they are today! I can install sights with a hand drill better than they can with all that machinery! Quality control at H&R/NEF is not the problem, you have to have some quality before it can actually be controlled! The single shot Rossi's blow the Marlin/H&R/NEF, third rate products right out of the water! Sad too in a way, underwater is where they should remain!

Mag,

Those are some pretty harsh words for the Handi.
Out of curiousity... Do you own any H&R products??
I have 2 Rossi's and a bunch of Handi's and I like them both.
I think the Rossi's have a better safety. (especially for teaching youths how to shoot)
My H&R's and Rossi's both shoot equally well... (my 30-30 Handi is probably the best of them all)
H&R products are better looking in my opinion... (nicer wood and more "streamlined" look)
All in all though I can't really bash either product in terms of functionality... they all function flawlessly.
I'm not sure what you mean when you say that the H&R's have been downgraded to junk status.
The company seems to be making constant improvements to the lineup.
The .44 mags are shooting well now... new synthetic stock sets... an all stainless 45-70... very nice looking thumbhole stock sets... chamberings not available in the Rossi lineup... the list goes on...
H&R has the barrel accessory plan. (though it is sometimes flawed... at least it's available)
Rossi has promised a barrel accessory plan but is yet to be seen.
Rossi's do have one feature that I think is better than H&R... The hammers are at a much lower angle allowing the use of lower rings without modification to the hammer.
Standard stock sets from both companies are not exactly the prettiest thing. (crappy stain jobs)... but at this price point what do you want??
H&R does have some very nice laminate sets for upgrading and Rossi does not.
I could go on with little things but the point is... Both are appealing to different people for different reasons.
I think both companies offer good, solid, dependable products at reasonable prices.
Certainly though... Neither deserves to be labeled as "junk"

Just my 2 cents... Not everyone will agree with me and that's OK.

Spanky

Hi Spanky (and others here), In the last 35 years or so, I have owned more H&R & NEF than I could ever recount, including roughly 8 Shikaris in both 45-70 and 44mag, a few Topper 30-30s and combos, 3 45-70 NEF, ultra slug(I got that on a trade I wouldn't want anyone to think I was silly enough to purposely purchase any gun weighing that much!), A 450 marlin, a couple 22 Hornets, a 22 Rem Jet(wish that was still in my safe!) 5 10ga.from 36" down to 18", 2 Rifled Tracker II's, 1 in 12ga and 1 in 20ga, just for shooting elephant loads(Dixie Slugs) and on and on, not to mention a few H&R .22 cal revolvers, Currently I have the 2 tracker II's, a 12 ga, a 20ga a 28ga and a 3.5" mag 24" turkey gun. Through the years I have watched these wonderfully simple guns suffer from "improvements" and no quality control, from the alignment and or centering of parts to bent barrels right out of the box! factory gouged barrels from a slipping screwdriver when they put in the plug screws, sights so far off center a monkey could have done better blindfolded! actions that wouldn't open without a good whack on the barrel etc. Then when they dropped the auto ejector that was the last straw for me! It had been the only feature that kept it more desirable than a Rossi, not to mention that the Rossi was only 2/3 the price! So unable to buy a new ejecting H&R anymore I decided i'd finally give a Rossi a try, I have never looked back! The Rossi is a sheer joy to carry compared to a handi, is more accurate (at least in my experience) and weighs POUNDS less! Am I anti H&R? absolutely not! Just like Smith & Wesson, Winchester, Savage and some others, they had their day and their products were top notch in their field, And now, as with the S&W pre-lock models with pinned barrels and recessed chambers, pre-'64 Winchesters and brass rotor Savage 1899's are to be cherished when found! I currently own 2 Rossi stainless, single shot 44 mags and one in 357, Having had vast experience with both manufacturers products I can honestly say "There is NO way I would trade one Rossi for 5 newer handis.
I still use and enjoy single shot H&R shotguns and always will i'm sure, as there is no shortage of the good older ones on the market, but my days of paying out my hard earned cash for second rate, needlessly overweight, handi's is over!
I know handi's have a great following and that is fine, we all have different ideals with the products we as consumers require. To each his own, as the saying goes.
Happy Holidays and SAFE shooting everyone!!!
P.S.
It's late i'm not proof reading:-)

10der222 · « **Reply #57 on:** January 03, 2009, 08:23:00 PM »

I picked up a Rossi 357 mag SS rifle for my daughter and was very surprised at how accurate the gun is.I have had several NEF ss rifles and some shot lights out and some shot like crap.The only issue I have with this gun is that the spent casings are VERY hard to remove.(i see where this was already mentioned) what do you reccomend to alleviate this issue.Thanks in advance,J.R.

BTW,glad to see a Rossi specific thread.Thanx

Singleshotsam · « **Reply #58 on:** January 08, 2009, 11:22:44 AM »

Tim,

I can't really understand why your concerned about the Rossi bbl program when you say you don't use the one that H&R has...?

I personally think that the Rossi's have better recievers and metal finish, NEF has a lot better wood though...

whackmnstackm1775 · « **Reply #59 on:** January 22, 2009, 04:29:55 AM »

So I gather that Rossi does not have an auto extractor ( does H&R still have an auto extractor ) or a barrel accessory program? The reason I ask is becasue I may trade a mountain bike for a 50 cal muzz/ 20 gauge combo. Good trade or No?

I just saw on the Rossi Website the following: THE ROSSI MUZZLELOADING RIFLE HAS A RECEIVER THAT CAN BE FITTED WITH A CENTERFIRE OR RIMFIRE CARTRIDGE BARREL. THEREFORE, IT IS A FIREARM. ALL REGULATIONS GOVERNING THE SALE, SHIPMENT AND TRANSFER OF FIREARMS MUST BE FOLLOWED INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, USE OF FORM 4473 BY LICENSED DEALERS AND THE USE OF LICENSED DEALERS FOR SHIPMENT.

so do they exchange barrels or is this something that should be updated on their website?

thanks

Semper Fi