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Offline Sourdough

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« on: December 09, 2004, 10:04:39 AM »
Don't know if you guys know it or not, but the Dept Of Fish And Game are asking for a licsence fee increase.  One of their options is to start requiring residents to pay for our harvest permits, and increase the price of a resident licsense 100%.  This is going to hit some people hard.  The reason for the increase is due to increased cost of running Fish and Game.  The govenor will not add them to his budget, therefore the only way they can get additional funds is to raise license fees.  What we need is a grass roots effort to get the legislator to add them to the state budget, since the govenor will not.  We alaskans need to contact our legislators and let them know how we feel, pro or con for the legislator adding them to the state budget.  
 
Some of the recommended prices for resident Big Game Tags are:  Black Bear $25.00, Caribou $10.00 per animal $50.00 maximum in high bag areas, Moose $20.00, Dall Sheep $50.00, Brown Bear $55.00, Bison $150.00, Wolf $25.00, Deer $5.00 per animal $30.00 max for high bag areas.    
 
Resident License increase: Hunting $50.00, Trapping $30.00, (NEW) Resident Small Game $25.00
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« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2004, 11:40:47 AM »
I'm probably not gonna make anyone from AK happy with this comment but here goes anyway.

With prices that low I don't think a doubling is out of line. Bet they've been at that level a long time too. I'd also bet out of state fees are at least 10-15 times as high in many cases. Maybe not but that's not unusual in most states especially western states.

Not saying that G&F shouldn't be on budget but be careful of what you ask for. You may get it. And not like what you get. If all people of the state are paying their salaries those in cities who could care less about you being able to hunt are gonna start wanting a say in how things are run. Do you REALLY want that?

Hunting and even living in Alaska was a dream of mine from my youth. Sadly my youth is long gone and it ain't likely ever gonna happen now. Wish I had at least visited awhile when I was still in shape to do so.


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« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2004, 04:03:12 PM »
http://fwp.state.mt.us/hunting/seasonslicenses/residents.html

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« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2004, 05:01:39 PM »
Graybeard and all you other gentlemen that think you may be over the hill as far a Alaska goes, NEA!!!!!!!    My Dad always wanted to come here for a hunt and to fish.  Well, at the age of 73 he finally made it.  Got a nice Moose. then went fishing in Valdez.  Caught a nice Halibut, then caught silvers till his arms could take no more.  Then a stop at the Gulkania river where he caught Grayling till he was too tired to fish anymore.  He finally fulfilled his life long dream as a Senior citizen.  If you want to see a sparkle in an old man's eyes, mention Alaska to my Dad.  If it was not for my overbearing mother he would be back up here in a heart beat, just so he could float a river with his son, and see big bears.
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« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2004, 05:26:53 PM »
Geeze GB.  Isn't Sourdough and I treading on your heals in age here.  Were not far away from ya.  That is why an outfitter would help.  Let them do the packing.

Black bear hunting is done close to a boat where I am located or only 1/4 mile off of a road in a stand. If I can pack out 4 quarters and a 5 1/2 bear hide by myself (OK so another bear was there and I was afraid of having to come back into a kill site alone) you should make it in two trips.

Many of us hunt with partners here.  One day partner is the shooter, next day it is my turn.  Partners are great, especially if you get the right one.  I happen to have a great one.
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« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2004, 06:44:26 PM »
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Check out Montana! You need a pay a fee to pass gas.


Ya got that right. Getting so all the western states are like that.


Guys age ain't all of it. Physical health is a big part of the equation. Just to take my gun and pack from my truck 150 yards to my permanent stand (altitude change of maybe 15') I have to stop 2-3 times to get my breath. My bum knees have arthritis so bad they likely will need replacement in the next few years and they go out on me at the most inopportune times. The left especially. I'd be more likely to need to be carried out than to help carry out any game.

No bucks for guides at AK prices either. They won't more for hunts than my annual income.

I should have done it 20 years ago when I had the income and the health. Now I have neither and ain't likely to ever again have either.


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« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2004, 06:50:31 PM »
Gee guess things have changed sincse I lived there, late 70's to 80. My Hunting, fishing and trapping lic. was $25.00 a year. Dont remember what my moose tags were, but not that much.
Am trying to convince the lil woman that we should spend at least a summer up there (she's worried shell never get me back out  :twisted: ).  Knee's wont take much walking or standing. (23 yrs of football-high school and military, plus softball from grade school till just a couple of yrs ago). Dont understand why they hurt.  3 trips to the hosp. to have work done on artires. And am still willing to go back up and hunt and fish. To me a cabin outback (with power and water and phone) a computer, couple rifles and shotguns 22, fishing poles and I got it made. Got a little comming in from mil. retirement and s/s
have decent,4x4, and think could do just very well. At 64yrs pushing 65 would shure like to give it another go.

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thanks for info Sourdough
« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2004, 11:04:57 PM »
Wow, I didn't realize they were planning fees on harvest tickets!  Its been a LONG time since the license fee went up so I could accept that but I'll have to think about the harvest tickets - might be hard to convince my wife we shouldn't call up Wayne's Meat Market for a freezer pack.  Heck as it was I spent nearly $300 on boat gas and still didn't get a moose.

Graybeard and the rest of you guys - If you really want to come to AK  and can somehow swing the cost of getting here, you should do it.  With some care and planning you can find affordable ways to do some stuff.  We had some guys show up in Dillingham on an "elder hostel" program by the University of Alaska.  The guy's wives were into the education but the men came hoping to finagle a way to fish.  Once here in DLG they helped a guy butcher a moose and in return he took them fishing for a couple afternoons - everybody had a blast.  You might not do it all but doing even a little of it could be a great time.  I met a guy in Aniak who couldn't walk more than 20-30 feet.  The B&B where he stayed found a 4 wheeler to set him on and sent him down the river to fish.  He sat right on the ATV and caught plenty of salmon to stay happy - no guide, a great time-  and never got off the ATV.
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« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2004, 06:10:26 AM »
ADF&G has some good info about the proposed fee increases posted on their website at http://www.adfg.state.ak.us/special/license/license.php  
 
They also have a questions & comments link that  allows you to voice your opinion and suggestions to them.  They were very receptive and supportive of my ideas.
 
I believe that fee increases are inevitable and are long overdue.  Hopefully, with our inputs, they will continue to keep fees reasonable and still be able to fund worthwhile programs.

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« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2004, 09:19:37 PM »
Graybeard:  Let's see here!  Heel spurs both feet.  Arthritis in ankles, knees, hips, shoulders, hands, and spine.  One totally plugged artery in my heart with a failed By-pass (thanks to Vioxx), and a new stint in another artery.  Bi-cuspid aerotic valve (means it's no good).  Four herniated disk in my back.  Do I let these things stop me?  No way.  Slow me down, Yes, stop me no!  Life is too short to let it go by sitting in a wheel chair.  I'm leaving Tuesday to go into the Alaska Range hunting Wolves alone.  I'll probably stay three or four days.  I've already got a trip planned for next year to go Moose hunting.  My partner and I are going to float another river south of the Yukon this time.  We've also got another trip planned in August for Caribou to the same place we went this year.  Also some new changes are in the works for Grizzly hunting next spring.  If they pan out lots of us are going to be hunting Grizzlies this spring.  No I can't walk far, or carry a load.  That's why I have a four-wheeler, snow machine, track rig, boat, ultra-light, and an old Volkswagen.  And about once a month, I make what would be considered (The Trip Of A Life Time) for most folks.  That's why I retired up here, and I will never leave.
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« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2005, 08:31:10 PM »
Sourdough, You sound like you are in about the same shape I'm in. I'm not giving up either. To young men boats and wheelers are toys, but to us middle aged guys they become necessities.

I get my free life time licence this year so I hope they don't change that. Of course with the price of fuel I may need to stay closer to home this year anyway. Regards, Byron
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