Author Topic: all 22 mag owners? (Read 2862 times)

shaner · « **on:** December 12, 2004, 02:18:36 AM »

lookin at a 22mag would really like insite on the accuracy of yurs , and likes and dislikes? thanks

hellacatcher · « **Reply #1 on:** December 12, 2004, 02:27:14 AM »

I have the ultra that can nail em with Winchester Dynapoints if I hold on the tarket.

MSP Ret · « **Reply #2 on:** December 12, 2004, 03:19:28 AM »

I have the Sportster set up with the Storearm Forearm and Survivor stock with a 1" Millet Red Dot mounted for a light weight coyote gun. It is a tack driver with CCI Mini Mags, from a good rest it is capable of shooting an inch or a bit under at 100 yards. Just a little better with the Winchester Silver Box and Black Box. No negatives about it. It's a winner all around for a hunting gun. I prefer a bit better polish and blue job on the receiver for looks but for hunting the non-reflective matte of the frame is perfect!!! In fact so far 3 of my hunting buddies have liked it so much they have purchased .22 Mag Sportsters and each has set his up with a Red Dot. theirs are all set up with the same model red dot sight which I had originally put on my coyote gun, a 30mm Simmons. That sight was great also but I got the Millet for a good price and it has a smaller red dot. The Simmons is now on my 24" 12 Gauge smoothbore Handi and shoots great groups at 50 yards with Brenneke slugs. Thanks to Scattergunner I have another red dot, a NcStar which may eventually end up on my smoothbore 12 gauge with the Simmons going over to my 12 gauge Tracker II barrel (so much to do, so little time!!)....<><....I have recently received some 12 gauge Dixie Express slugs to try out, boy oh boy, do they look what you would need in a shotgun for Bison or bear!!! If you are not familiar with them look into them, quite a slug and reasonably priced for what they are...probably a bit much for deer but what a load for large pigs, bear or as I said a bison...on the line of the old Paradox guns of the turn of the century and those were used for large dangerous game in Africa, elephant included!!!....<><.... :grin:

Moonlitin · « **Reply #3 on:** December 12, 2004, 06:07:19 AM »

I put a Swift Premier 4-12x40 on my NEF Sportster 22WMR. I also replaced the synthetic stocks with a set of walnut stocks from a Handi rifle. The Remington Premier ammo is extrememly accurate (although a little expensive) out of it, and the Winchester Supreme (black box) is pretty good too. At 50 yards, with the Rem Premier, a 5 shot group with all of the holes touching each other is not uncommon.

Good luck with your 22 mag...I think you're going to like it.

Moonlitin

shaner · « **Reply #4 on:** December 12, 2004, 09:57:38 AM »

thanks gents , i figured about as much ,just checkin its the synthetic stocked sporter also

ironglow · « **Reply #5 on:** December 13, 2004, 03:05:19 PM »

MSP and Moonlitin are getting better groups than I am, but I found that my mag likes PMC Predators best..

MSP Ret · « **Reply #6 on:** December 13, 2004, 03:16:32 PM »

ironglow, I have not seen the PMC Predators around here to try but I'll look for them. What weight and configuation of bullet are they? Do you think they may make a 75-100 yard coyote round?....<><.... :grin:

ironglow, I just went to the PMC website, I'll try to find some of thier 40 grain jacketed softpoint and try it..Thanks for mentioning it....

ironglow · « **Reply #7 on:** December 14, 2004, 04:51:16 PM »

MSP;
I get my PMC ammo from a local lumber yard/ gunshop..

I like them for their accuracy in most of my rifles..

They are 40 gr. JHP at the usual 1910 fps..perform about the same power wise as the regular 40gr CCI rounds.

I am normally a CCI booster for rimfire, but have been pleasantly surprised at the way my NEF and Anschutz handles these rounds...

MSP Ret · « **Reply #8 on:** December 15, 2004, 02:42:13 AM »

Thanks ironglow, have you shot any varmits with those PMC JHP at 1910? Any feedback on the results? I was thinking more on the lines of the JSP for coyotes. I'll try to find them and try them this winter....<><.... :grin:

shaner · « **Reply #9 on:** December 21, 2004, 02:52:13 PM »

hey man this 22mag shoots very well so far , scoped it and bore sighted it and shot it today got couple nice 2in groups so far at 75yd did run the pmc also today shot real well , anyone used the remington green tips? in theirs

hellacatcher · « **Reply #10 on:** December 21, 2004, 03:40:59 PM »

Shaner try those green tips on some crows they make feathers fly.

shaner · « **Reply #11 on:** December 21, 2004, 04:44:12 PM »

i like the sound of that already hahahahh , so u have tried them yurself?

Moonlitin · « **Reply #12 on:** December 21, 2004, 06:28:27 PM »

My 22 mag Sportster shoots very well with the Rem Premiers. At 50 yards, a 5 shot group with all of the holes touching each other is not uncommon if I do my part. The only thing I don't like about the Premiers is their cost...about $10 for a box of 50. The added accuracy is worth the extra cost though!

Good luck

Moonlitin

shaner · « **Reply #13 on:** December 22, 2004, 12:50:41 AM »

sounds like ur 22mag likes them for sure , yeah 10 bucks a box is high but if ur usein them for a reason its one thing out plinkin pop cans???i dont think so

dannyk · « **Reply #14 on:** December 22, 2004, 05:10:11 AM »

Just a quick question, what is the rate of twist in the 22mag barrel from NEF?

MSP Ret · « **Reply #15 on:** December 22, 2004, 05:29:27 AM »

dannyk, .22 Mag rate of twist 1 in 16". Listed in the FAQ's in the centerfire section....<><.... :grin:

Attn: Ironglow, It's just hit me, you get your ammo at a lumber yard/gun shop combination!!! Thats great, reminds me of when I was kid and you could buy shells (ammo) at the local Mom & Pop market, as well as just about everything else, fishing hooks, lures and bobbers, worms, mouse traps, BB guns...oh for the good old days...they would ask, "do your folks know you are buying these BB's? you say yes and out the door you would go with them!!! No 3 day wait or background checks then, and very little crime!!!....<><.... :grin:

shaner · « **Reply #16 on:** December 22, 2004, 08:57:56 AM »

wow MSP u sound likemy era , we had a gas station that sold sporting goods also he had the highest prices on everything but was normal on his guns and ammo , then the local hardware sold guns and ammo also (give me a pound of nails ,some hinges and let me see that new rifle up there ? hahahah oh if ur like me i long for the good ol days , like back before the yellow ffl papers too , hahahh dont think that will ever happen again my dad ran a pool hall in them days and i still see the guys sittin atthe bar eating and havein a few cocktails with pistol on their belts either goin or comin in from coon hunting i bet more guns were bought sold and tradin in there , then most stores sell a year

gwhilikerz · « **Reply #17 on:** December 22, 2004, 01:31:56 PM »

MSP I grew up in a place like that. Mom and Dad had a grocery store/service station and we lived in the back. Dad did his reloading out in the "grease house" where he was usually loading some "test" ammo for one of his guns or loading for the state trooper's 357s. Those guys were nuts about his reloads. We had display cabinets with candy bars sitting beside S&W's, Colts, lots of ammo and one wall chock full of rifles and shotguns. Back in the living quarters all the walls in Mom and Dad's bedroom had many more guns hanging on them :grin: . My brother and I had to share a room and there we had our baseball card collection and all "our" guns. (Yes we had our own guns and we could go shooting by ourselves anytime.) Anytime Dad traded for a gun and he was too busy to try it out he would enlist us to "wring it out". Many a day we would come home from school, grab a gun and some ammo and head out to shoot.
We had beagles that were as good as you could find anywhere, and fishing trips to Ky. Dam 3 nights a week during the summer months after white bass. Yep, I miss those days.

dannyk · « **Reply #18 on:** December 22, 2004, 02:26:40 PM »

Thank's MSP, I didn't realize it was posted someplace, it wasn't on the NEF site when I looked at the ultra. I was trying to decide between the ultra or a left hand bolt savage. During my info search on the savage site I saw that the savage was a 1 in 16 twist, but the 17 hmr is a 1 in 9 twist, other than caliber the 22 mag is in sportster barrel and the 17 comes in a bull barrel and that kinda struck me as odd being that the hummer shoots a lighter bullet. I know that my 223 ultra is a 1 in 12 and I couldn't get it to group with a 55gr bullet, had to go down to a 40gr ballistic tip to get to to really group like I wanted it to. Any thoughts as to the difference between the 17 and 22mag?

MSP Ret · « **Reply #19 on:** December 22, 2004, 03:04:38 PM »

As far as I know the heaviest bullet you can get in .22Mag ammo is the 50 grainers and my .22 Mag shoots the lighter 40 and 45 grain bullets better than the 50's. I would like to get a good shooting 50 grain jacketed soft point or even hollow point bullet in my .22 Mag for coyotes but the truth be told the 50's are great for hunting out to my self imposed coyote limit for my .22 Mag of 100-125 yards. We are talking a 2.5-3" group with the 50's, OK for hunting I guess, I'm just used to doing moa or less with the 40 grain Winchester or CCI Maxi Mag ammo from a good rest.
The .17 HMR is even a better story, extremely accurate with the .17 grain Hornadys and it shoots the Remingtons great also. It looks as if it holds promise with the new 20 grain loadings for a coyote gun, I hope to try it this winter with the 20's, it's just that my little .22 Mag is such a great light carry gun I think twice about carrying that heavy barrelled .17 the 1/2 mile or so snowshoe hike into and then out o,f each coyote setup when I vist my buddy in Millinocket Maine, do that 5-7 times a day and the old legs get tired, hard to believe I used to run half marathons and later did sprint triatahalons!!!....<><.... :grin:

dannyk · « **Reply #20 on:** December 22, 2004, 04:44:34 PM »

I haven't shot anything heavier in my 22 mag than 40gr jhp, shoots good at 100 yds. The only thing wrong with it is its a right hand bolt, I'm a lefty that is why I am looking at the Savage in 22 mag. Then I saw the ultra in 22 mag and it is a nice match for my 223 ultra, I really like the look and feel of the ultra. I will have to decide which one to get, I have had my 783 from new and really like the gun, tube fed 13 rounds so you don't have to carry a pocket full to go out, but I have never had a left hand gun, and really not much to choose from in the rimfire line. Ah! decisions decisions.

MSP Ret · « **Reply #21 on:** December 23, 2004, 01:48:48 AM »

danny, if you have been shooting bolts I would suggest you do not get a Handi, in fact I would highly reccommend you do not get one, because it is impossible to get just one, they are such fine little light and accurate rifles. They are available for such a good price you will soon find yourself wanting another and another, shotguns, centerfires, the list gos on and on. I won't even mention Handiholica, also known as Handieitis. If you however wish to try one call again and I can give you the meeting dates and location of your nearest chapter of the Handi-holic club. Hi my name is Andy and I am a Handiholic....<><.... :grin:

dannyk · « **Reply #22 on:** December 23, 2004, 04:06:12 AM »

Good one MSP, I already have the ultra in 223, a 17 hummer, and a 20ga. and probably another ultra in 22 mag. would that qualify me for the club?

hellacatcher · « **Reply #23 on:** December 23, 2004, 04:25:18 AM »

Danny you are just as sick as the reast of us.

ScatterGunner · « **Reply #24 on:** December 28, 2004, 12:45:08 PM »

dumb question -

i've never had a 22 mag. can you fire 22LR rimfire in it ?

sg

quickdtoo · « **Reply #25 on:** December 28, 2004, 01:11:40 PM »

I wouldn't recommend it, the 22mag chamber is bigger in diameter as well as length, so the brass will likely rupture or at least jam in the chamber. :wink:

MSP Ret · « **Reply #26 on:** December 28, 2004, 01:12:17 PM »

No SC, but actually you can fire a .22 LR in a .22 Mag in an emergency but the case will swell, perhaps split, the case might stick in the chamber and you will not get good accuracy. In a word, don't....<><.... :grin:

ScatterGunner · « **Reply #27 on:** December 28, 2004, 01:37:14 PM »

what's the reason for making the 22 mag fatter

quickdtoo · « **Reply #28 on:** December 28, 2004, 02:01:39 PM »

Hmmm...thicker case to handle the higher pressure, maybe??? Just guessing. :roll:

MSP Ret · « **Reply #29 on:** December 28, 2004, 02:35:33 PM »

This is as it has been explained to me...Although the diameter of the .22 LR and .22 Mag bullets are the same the .22 LR is what is referred to as a "heeled" bullet, that is, the outer diameter of the .22 LR case and bullet are the same, so the part of the bullet that fits inside the case therefore is a bit smaller in diameter to allow it to fit in the bullet case. In a .22 Mag the bullet is one diameter all the way back (unless it is a boatail design) and the case has to be the outer diameter of the bullet on the inside of the case, therefore the .22 Mag case has a slightly larger case diameter. If you pull a bullet from a .22 LR (or .22 Short or .22 long) case you will see what I mean...<><.... :grin: