Thanks for your post and willingness to share your thoughts and experience of limiting gun ownership by civilians. I like most police in this country are for private ownership of firearms, I even teach and certify civilians to get their first hunting licenses and permits to carry concealed weapons (pistols and revolvers). Unfortunately it is the minority, left wing politicians and some heads of police associations that get all the press. I am thinking in particular of an incident a few years ago where the president of the Chiefs of Police Association made a statement that the group was against private gun ownership, that made a big splash in the news, however the rank and file members of the association were appalled by his statement and voted against the concept backing the rights of the individual citizen to keep and bear arms, that however was hardly publicisized. Again an incident of the left wing media trying to force ideas down the throats of the people. Go George W., vote Republican and keep our rights to carry intact. God, Family, and guns keep our country strong, the liberals are trying to destroy each and every one. My daughter knows the teacher in California that is suing the school district, and in turn has been suspended, the point of contention is this, he is a history teacher and is not allowed to talk about or teach of our revered Declaration of Independence, because, ready for this, it has the word "GOD" in it. The school district states the separation of church and state must be maintained!!! There you have it friends, the liberals are now changing our history and sanitizing it to suit themselves. The reason for the founding of this country was freedom of religion and religion prosecution, no we cannot mention religion or God and are pescecuted for it again!!! GOD, FAMILY and GUNS made this country and will keep it free...God Bless you Dutchshooter and everyone else here along with your families, and to all and a Merry CHRISTmas....<><.... :grin: