Graybeard, I have the deepest respect for you and others on this forum. I tried to extend my apoligy and end the BS. But for some reason it would'nt accept my post. Call me childish or stubborn but I believe what I believe. Would you think more of me if I layed down and accepted some-one elses belief? Sorry, thats not my style. Evidently they just don't want to hear any-thing negative about NEF.And you're absolutely right, enough is enough.
Broken-arrow
I've read every post in the thread that prompted this. Several of them more than once. I am convinced you're grossly over reacted to what was said/posted.
A bit of history on the subject as I remember it.
You had a barrel, your son's I believe. It didn't shoot to your satisfaction. I believe you spent some amount of time on it but gave up pretty quickly and offered to sell it for $50. Your offer was immediately accepted by a poster and then others jumped in to start a bidding war. I kinda ignored things during this time but as I understand it some ill feelings resulted here and in the end you sold it to the first person to tell you he'd take it as offered.
Still ill will was set in motion at this point.
Fast forward to the thread where someone asked why the Handi's are bad mouthed.
You offered into this thread that you had two barrels and one displeased you so you felt they were about a 50-50 shot at getting a good one. Fair enough from your perspective. No harm to that point. But you pressed it and pressed it. OK so maybe you do know of others. So do most folks.
Even the most devoted of these "handi-holics" admit there are at times problems. Some they fix with tips and hints they share here. Some are sent back to be fixed by factory. Other than perhaps the percentages which neither you nor I know is this any different than any other brand of long gun? Ya gotta look at what you bought. You bought a cheap gun. One that the entire gun sells for less than a Thompson Center Contender or Encore barrel alone sells for. You really gotta expect some rough edges at that price point. It ain't a custom made gun nor a gun the factory spends a lot of time on. Can't be and sell at that price point.
Some where along the way a comment was made in regard ignorance of folks about these guns and how to fix the little common problems they seem to have. I believe it is at this point you really kinda lost it. I do not think anyone directly called you ignorant. If you felt the shoe fit then fine wear it. If not, then don't put that shoe on. BUT and here is the who crux of the matter I believe, you seem to have a misconception regarding ignorance. Or maybe more properly the difference between ignorance (aka lack of knowledge on a specific subject) and being stupid. This simple misunderstanding is I believe what led to the rest.
You really gotta expect guys as fanitical about these cheap little rifles to defend them. Yeah they also talk bad about them in the next breathe.
As I said I've read it all. I saw no one attacking you. I saw no one out of line. It seemed it had all blown over and then you take it upon yourself to act as if you are the admin here rather than me and start posting a topic called new forum rules. Don't know how it works where ever you used to be but around there I MAKE THE RULES! I pay the bills and I make the rules.
Those rules in place do not allow personal attacks. These guys know that and know I'm prone to come down hard on violators. They walk a thin line at times but they do try to stay within the spirit as well as letter of the rules. I really think your being new here created some misundertandings that caused you to feel you were being attacked when in fact you were not. Again near the end of that thread the last time I'd read it all seemed fine until this thread was started by you.
Now until then I'd watched from the side lines and kept my fingers pretty silent on the key board. But you stepped over the line in this thread and that I refused to accept.
Now back to where we started. You've not been personally attacked. Yeah folks feel you did exactly what above you said you'd not do and asked me if I'd expect you to do. You gave up on the barrel. They don't. They chided you over that and took it as a project to prove you quit too early. Until you decided to post your new rules no rules on the site had been broken.
So go back to options above and decide. Choice is yours. I run no one off unless they really ask to be. Neither do I beg anyone to stay. Those who do stay follow the rules and try to fit in and get alone. Those who don't are asked to leave or shown the door as the need maybe. For now the direction you take is totally in your hands.
