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Offline maggot

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« on: December 29, 2004, 12:59:14 PM »
I want to get into muzzleloading but don't want to spend much.
I see cva has a sidelock "bobcat" for under $70 retail.
Anybody here use one? Where's the cheapest place to find one?
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« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2004, 01:39:08 PM »
I saw one at Wall-mart recently for $54. I don't see how you can go wrong at that price. I'm sure you can find an opinion or two here to help you choose a more traditonal gun for your second purchase. :lol:
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« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2004, 01:42:56 PM »
Well,  if you want to get in ML for $70, I suggest just keeping the $70. and go shoot with someone & ya don't have to spend anything & save a trip to WalMart......?  I really don't know how you could possibly get a ML any cheaper than $70.  or at least one that will function at all & not totally piss ya off all the time.  Oh well, you may find one a buck or two cheaper across town but then it may cost more in gasoline & hassle than the savings.

Also you might want to keep in mind that you will spend another $100 min. on all the other stuff ya need for the rifle....  
 
Normal start up on a decent ML is about $400.-500 for a decent mass produced rifle & bare essentials, such as a Lyman GPR and the min. stuff ya need to go with it.  Some will say that is B.S., but you just keep an accurate Written record for about 6 mo. & see.  This will give ya a decent rifle to shoot target & hunt with.... Also if you decide to sell the GPR later you can easily do so & recoup 75% of your investment if you take care of the rifle.  

I did have a .50 Bobcat here one time I had won someplace & I shot it & it would put 3 PRB's in a 2" circle at 50 yards, which surprised me.
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« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2004, 01:47:26 PM »
Quote from: Birddog6

.....Normal start up on a decent ML is about $400.-500 for a decent mass produced rifle & bare essentials.....


Without a doubt...
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« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2004, 03:57:16 PM »
Quote from: Birddog6

I did have a .50 Bobcat here one time I had won someplace & I shot it & it would put 3 PRB's in a 2" circle at 50 yards, which surprised me.

So why are you telling this fella not to by it?
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« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2004, 04:11:54 PM »
Maggot
 Check out  www.Gunbroker.com or www.Auctionarms.com. I've bought several blackpowder rifles and pistols online, and have gotten some real bargins. No FFL is required to purchase blackpowder arms.

Most cost more than 70.00$ dollars ,but check out the site often and you will find somthing you like in no time.
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« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2004, 04:32:46 PM »
you should be able to sell it for 40 dollars if yo dont like it..  go ahead, buy it and see if muzzeloading is for you..  youll either sell it, put in the closet, shoot it a whole bunch, or get a better one..  entry level guns are just that.. a way to find out to see if your a budding  buckskinner, or smokeless and jacketed bullets are the way your going to go.  some  guys are paying 70 dollars for a box of bullets..    good luck dave..
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« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2004, 04:06:52 AM »
I think I will buy one.
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« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2004, 12:46:18 AM »
I bought my 16 year old son a Bobcat last year for Christmas. The Saturday after Christmas we were at the range getting him aquainted with it. It shot well and he took to it.
In Ohio  deer season for muzzleloaders starts the Monday after Christmas so we got to try it out hunting soon after he got it.
Within 15 minutes of sunrise he had shot a nice buck with his new Bobcat and a patched roundball. Talk about a thrilled young man.
I think the Bobcat is a good inexpensive gun for someone looking to try their hand at muzzleloading. If you find it's not right for you at least you haven't invested too much money.
I just took a buck a couple of days ago with my .54 version of the Bobcat and it's a thrill to take game with a sidelock. Especially after all my friends told me to forget about getting a deer with  sidelock because they are too unreliable. Spend the time to learn how to clean, load, and shoot the gun and it can be a very satisfying experience.
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« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2004, 04:45:35 AM »
I agree, spend the time learning about all aspects of muzzleloading. If you like it as much as some of us do, start saving up for a reall class outfit, like a custom or semi-custom gun. Most of us did NOT start out with an expensive rifle. It's much easier to know what you want after you have learned what you don't want!
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« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2005, 01:34:01 PM »
AS A NEW M.L. SHOOTER MYSELF ALL I CAN SAY IS THAT NONE OF MY GUNS COST OVER $500.00 AND MY TWO .50CAL.S  SHOOT 1" TO 2" GROUPS AT 100 YARDS. MAY NOT BE AS PRETTY AS A CUSTOM GUN BUT WE ALL MAKE DO WITH WHAT WE CAN.
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« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2005, 02:17:50 PM »
I would bet that very few if any of those Mt. men we are trying to imitate Had a custom made rifle. My guess they were plain jane work guns.
                             Old Charlie
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« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2005, 11:34:13 AM »
"Especially after all my friends told me to forget about getting a deer with sidelock because they are too unreliable."

Don't believe talk about side locks being unreliable.  I'm the only shooter in my group of muzzle loading friends and I have NEVER had a failure to fire with my T/C Hawken, is accurate and IMHO easier to load than the sabot shooting moderns.  Same can't be said for the  Knight, Savage and Austin Hallick rifles my fiends shoot.  The early Savage Ml rifles are the most troublesome. Knight ws shredding sabots for a while, finally got that sorted out.  The cute little T/C Omega is the only modern rifle I would even come close to considering.
Sidelocks are great.
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