It`s been two years that iv`e taken a deer. Went to a freind of mine .Got a drive going. Nice doe came through about 40 yards broad side. Had my hunt`s man with bushnell red dot 295 grain hollow point, 80 grain pyrodex pellits hit her in shoulder found bullet on off side under skin mushroomed well ran about 30 yards, blood trail a blind man could follow. Got to get the knife`s sharpend latter Rich