I use a 270 Ren for field pistol. I tried the Lil' Gun but did not find a good load for it. I use Rem 100gr bulk bullets over 9gr. AA #9. It has low recoil and takes over what I hit, except for big bore rams. I use a red dot scope. I have tried a pistol scope, shotgun scope w/circle reticle and high power rifle scope on this gun but like the red dot best. I cannot hit any more targets with it but it is more comfortable to shoot. I really like the Ren for field pistol. Hope this helps. Thanks!