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Offline Peevie

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Where'd all the rabbits go?
« on: November 27, 2002, 08:51:55 AM »
Back in September and October, there were rabbits all over the place around here, especially in the evenings and I was really looking forward to putting together a box-trap and trying it out. I've been watching the past few weeks now and haven't seen anything. My Beagle is really wondering what's going on. Seems like they were lots of them and then they just disappeared. I've been noticing a lot of bobcat sign up above the house, but I don't think a bobcat couldv'e done THAT much damage to a rabbit population.
Do they normally move to better ground or die out every year?

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« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2002, 05:36:20 PM »
Hey Peevie, You'd be really surprised at how many rabbits a bobcat can take. I belong to a rabbit hunting club. We've got a fenced in 1 1/2 acre running pen that we keep stocked with rabbits just for the purpose of training beagles. We have to keep constantly replacing bunnies in the pen. Seems every owl, hawk, bobcat and fox makes a meal off the furballs in and around the pen. A rabbit has a relatively small home area so I doubt very seriously that they're just moving off. More likely being picked off at night by the above pred's. Just my .02 for what it's worth. Oh, by the way the most destructive predator that I have found to date is a feral housecat. More cats fewer bunnies.


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Where'd all the rabbits go?
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2002, 02:25:12 PM »
Frog I guess those cats can do some damage over a short period of time. Went up on the mountain this morning and found some bobcat tracks above a house site that had been pushed out. Down below is a small field where I was seeing all the rabbits a while back. Guess I've got some competition now.....lol

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« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2002, 12:24:09 AM »
no   rabbits where i  live  just  hare  .  they  do  move alot.   ever notice where theres a good  rabbit  thicket on fresh snow ., may see signs of hawks ,owls ,weasel ,fisher,bobcat ,coyote,fox,ive seen  all  this at one rabbit  thicket.   litle  farther north you can add wolf ,marten and lynx,   which ive seen sign of them but very  rare here.  some places you can add  mt lion.    its not a wonder   the rabbits are gone its a wonder there are any  .   if  they  have  the habitat  theyll  survive  all  these  critters  hunting  them .  have ridden my snowmobile in to thicket in morning  at  daylight.   very fresh   snow    4  hare  killed  by  owls in  snowmobile  trail.  in a few miles.    we arent  the  only  one  hunting  these bunnies.   pete
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« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2002, 10:00:01 AM »
Naw' Peevie, I'm over here in Middle Tennessee. Live an hour west of Nashville in the metropolis of Dickson Co. . I get over to the mountains about three or four times a year. Like it up that way. Oh well, appreciate the line. Stay safe.....

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« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2002, 02:40:45 PM »
They population seems to be decreasing slowly this fall where I live in Central Texas. But they do this at the on-set of winter every year. However, I got a couple in South Texas with my handgun last week and they were everywhere. Must have counted 20-40 over a two day period. But the main key is that if you have heavy thickets you'll sooner or later have rabbits. The ones is south Texas I harvested were in very heavy prickly pear patches that a human could not walk through.  :wink:

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« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2002, 08:25:46 AM »
Was quail and pheasant hunting in Eastern Kansas a few weeks back and could have shot 4 or 5 rabbits a day if I had wanted to.  The Quail and Pheasant were actually harder for us to scare up.  Saw sign of bobcat in one native grass field and was told a mom and kittens lives there.  Found lots of quail kill sights in that field and no birds.  No rabbits there either.

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« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2002, 09:09:56 AM »
Hey I think all them rabbits moved to ohio! We haven't had a bad day  yet this season. Of course it could be the beagle's, seeing they do most of the work, nothin better than the sound of a few hounds on a hot trail comin round youre way!

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« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2002, 12:52:49 PM »
Those that aren't in Ohio, are here in Central Pa.  Me an the hounds moseyed out about 12:30 this afternoon to one of our favorite bottoms an had our limit(4) in an hour and a Half.  Been like that all season.  Like most hunters, I suppose, I check out the tracks in the snow when I'm out, an from what I could see, the other critters hunting those rabbits were mink(saw the mink), feral cats, either dog or fox, an what might have been a hawk or owl kill.  We've got great horned owls everywhere up here.  Oh, an a dead doe with an arrow hole in her.
I followed the blood trail to where she lay, it was clear as day.!!###&!!.  Anyway, the bunnies seem to be holding their own against the predators.  Tonight's menu:  Stewed bunny, gravy, rice an biscuits.  Don't get much better.

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« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2002, 01:47:38 AM »
hey joel,
You don't happen to have a recipe for that rabbit stew do you??
always wanting to try something new.

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« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2002, 04:52:48 AM »
Don't think I do anything much different than most folks, except normally I use a pressure cooker, though I've done this recipe in my cast iron dutch oven also.  Kinda goes like this:
Cleaning the rabbit:  I make sure every bit of fat is off the bunny, plus I use a filet knife to cut the membrane off the back.  Put the rabbit in a big bowl and keep rinsing it until there's not a lot of blood; then stick it in the refigerator until I'm ready to cook it.  Might check the bowl a couple of times more, an if there's a lot more blood floating around, I'll dump the water out and add new.  By the time I cook it, I like the water that the pieces are soaking in to be pretty clear.  Some folks add salt to the water to help "draw" out the blood and the shot; I usually don't bother.
Coating the Rabbit:  Then I take a bag an throw in a couple of handfuls of flour, plus a handful or cornmeal and whatever spices I'm going to add.  I make this kind of generic coating mix that I use on everything from chicken to rabbit to Deer(like my deer steaks chicken fried).  Usually there's salt, pepper, garlic powder, onion powder, Cajun Spice, Sazon(a Mexican Spice mixture made by Goya) an anthing else that tickles my palate at the time.  Then I throw the wet rabbit pieces in and shake them up good.
Cooking:  Then I take a piece of bacon, if I have some, fry it for a while in either the pressure cooker or Dutch Oven pot, take it out and add a small piece of butter(just enough for flavor) and a little cooking oil; enough to coat the bottom of the pot.  Add the rabbit pieces and brown slowly.  While the rabbit's browning, I chop up a big onion, celery, a couple of medium carrots, mushrooms, the bacon piece if I used one, and a clove of garlic.  If I have some sweet red pepper laying around, I add that too.  In a small pot, I put two cups of water, add two beef boullion cubes, a couple of dashes of soy sauce, an about a tablespoon of ketchup.  Let that heat until the boullion cubes dissolve, add the vegetable to it, then throw the whole mess over the browned rabbit.
In the case of the pressure cooker, I cook it for 40 minutes at 10 psi.
When I do it in the Dutch Oven(actually any big pot with a tight lid works), I bring the mixture(as they say) to boil, cover it tight an put the heat on low, so it simmers for around an hour.  When the rabbit's good an tender, I take it out, add maybe another 3/4 cup of wayter and bring the gravy to a boil, an thicken it either with flour or corn starch. Pour the gravy over either rice or noodles, an serve with biscuits(I cheat an use Jiffy Mix) an what ever vegetable you like.
Variations:  Sometimes I add a small can of whole tomatoes an canned or frozen green beans to the vegetables/boullion mix.  If I use tomatoes, I leave out the ketchup.  If I'm doing it in the Ductch oven, I'll add a couple of cubed potatoes during the last 15 minutes or so of cooking.  Don't do that in the pressure cooker, they'll turn to mush, unless you want to go through the hassle of cooling the cooker down, adding the potatoes, and then bringing it back up to pressure for the last fifteen minutes.  Sometimes, I make it with dumplings instead of biscuits.  If I make dumplings I usally make grits on the side.  Use your imagination, I guess.

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« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2004, 05:29:48 AM »
Hoosier rabbits just die young. Lots of preditors, but putting mineral block in their briar patches helps give 'em a boost past their infant mortality stage.