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Offline MinnesotaJoel

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« on: February 02, 2003, 09:59:46 PM »
Hey guys,

I'm a new member here and thought I'd use this groups knowledge to settle a question.  I have a Marlin .32win special that I am pretty deadly with on deer, but I recently purchased a Ruger M77 .270win with a leupold scope on it.  I use 170gr federals in the .32win and have shot a variety with the .270, which should I use over my bait pile in the woods next season?
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« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2003, 03:09:06 AM »
Either one would work quite well. Heavier bullets will be more effective for bear. If you use the scope, keep in mind that it's usually darker on the forest floor near your bait pile and sometimes they don't appear until right at dusk/dark. In which case you'll want a low power, good light gathering scope. By the way, welcome aboard.
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« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2003, 03:26:41 AM »
Hey geno,

Thanks for answering my question and welcoming me, by the way, did you realize I live in the next town over from you?  I'm in centerville all the time!
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« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2003, 12:53:02 PM »
I just spent a week up north with Kathy & Jim at the Fish River Lodge. I bought an Older model sayko I bought some years a go in 300 win mag and its seems to me to be the all around cal. I have shot many deer and one bear with ths gun. and I have never chased game, they go in a pile,right where they stand.When I was at the lodge& Jim told me not to chase after a bear after its been hit that they always run off to die. I shot the bear and he just rolled over and died. He was dead before I gould shove a nother round in the gun.  We all have our favorites this one seems to work for me. Good luck and welcome :D  :D  :D
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« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2003, 02:40:33 PM »
I believe I would stick with that 32 Special. I hunted in Maine bout 14 years ago and a gentlemen that lived up there had a Marlin in 32 Special with a 24" barrel and try as I might he would not part with it. It was in excellent shape and he had used it on everything fron mice to moose.  Those open sights at bearbait ranges will work better than that scoped 270.  My.02 cents
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« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2003, 09:15:52 PM »
I just happen to have posted this pictures elsewhere, and still have it handy.  Here's a 7' black bear shot with a 416 Taylor...



I didn't think it was too much, when the bear dropped in it's tracks. :grin:
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« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2003, 11:05:26 AM »
I'm not saying that any cal. is better that another. But I have found in life that bigger is better.Walk softly and carry a Big gun.
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« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2003, 10:41:40 PM »
nice bear BW
 That rock under his nose kinda made him look
like a lab pup at first.I thought my eyes were going bad
but i enlarged the photo and saw the rock.

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« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2003, 10:54:32 PM »
HI Joel
 I really like the idea of ya using the old 32 special for
black bear as i have a soft spot for old lever actions
and that one should be very capable of taking a big blackie.
The 270 bolt gun is also a very capable rifle.But that lever gun
sure does look good in bear hunting photos :wink:
and welcome to the bear forum
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« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2003, 12:35:21 PM »
By no means was I suggesting a 416 Taylor was needed, I was just sharing an experience. :)

Here's another view of the bear above...

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« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2003, 06:29:11 PM »
Brian
 I think the 416s are a  great caliber
I have a buddy that uses a 416 taylor for every thing he hunts in alaska
i for one like big bore rifles anyway.I really like to use
my old lever guns in large calibers .But i do have a
bolt gun in 416 rigby that i picked up in a trade  
on a moose hunt a while back and really like the
way it shoots. Thanks for sharing the photos
nice bear

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« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2003, 04:04:35 PM »
Bigger is better ,that is true,bears need to be dropped,and dropped quickly,for 2 reasons where they want go in a thicket and to stop a possible retalatory lunge or charge which is possible with even smaller black bears,  I've used 6.5X55 with heavy bullets(160gr.) ,30/30,  06
303  But I now use only 45/70 GG and sometimes my Brown Bear cartridge 375 H&H  cartridge , if its in the swamps where the Blackies get large and shots(in clearings ) can get 200yd.s or so the 375 H&H really shines there.
I had a hunting pal rag me over my 375 H&H once ,telling me it was overkill.The next day he ate his words when I dropped a 650 pound Blackie from over 185 yd.s out ,a shot he would had to pass up even with his 06.
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« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2003, 02:11:26 AM »
New on here ,had to post on this one.First of all I'd go with the gun I was more confident with.2nd I hunt bear in Maine with a 30 remington.I do not have to chase them.Its bullet placement folks.3rd ,passed up a shot at 185 yds. with an 06???WHY? anyway it is NOT necessary to carry the equal of a small cannon for bear.They die quite easily if you just place the bullet properly.
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« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2003, 05:22:13 AM »
Bukeye,

I don't understand why anyone would pass up a shot on that bear at 185yards with a 30-06.

That is well within the reach and killing capability of the 30-06 on any bear.
A well placed 180, 200, 220 grain high quality bullet will do an outstanding job on that animal.

I would not hesitate to take my -06 for the largest bear as long as I could get within range. Are thier better options avaialble, yes. But I don't feel undergunned with the -06 either.
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