I contemplated how to come in to this thread and now have a injured -stiched finger.I started in 42 with a Bugle and bugled up till this day.I then went to a Coronet in the forties and then Trumpet,was in the 46 Rose Parade and then to Dance and Swing bands and by the time I was 16 was force to join the union[Petrilo Union in LA],I just wanted to play I did not care about the pay,but once in I played under David Rose and did the Horse whinny on Sliegh ride,his Masked waltz record,played with the LA Philamonic under Wahlenstien,played with different bands and was a regular on weekends with the Ken Carpenter band and the Rivera Country club,took music in college and the transfered to USC and got drafted,never played professionaly again but stilll bugle .