Iwas at the local gunshop yesterday, just browsing, when I came across a heavy-barrel .223 handi rifle. I didn't know I was in the market for one, but when I saw the price tag ($199) I rembered how much fun my Dad said he has shooting pdogs. Well i thought about it last night and bought it this morning when the shop opened! :grin: i guess now I've got yet another forum to check out regularly here at Greybeard's :-D . Can't wait for the weather to get above 10deg F. to try it out!