.270 bullets

[deerslayer15]

What is the best bullet/grain for deer out to 350 yards. The only bullet I won't get would be winchester.(dads ruled out all winchester shells)
Any help would be well takin

[LeadPoison]

I would look at Sierra 130 BTSP and Hornady 130 SSTs.

[leverfan]

...dads ruled out all winchester shells...

Howdy, there.  I reload, so I was wondering, what's wrong with Winchester ammo?  Are you talking about a product boycott thing, bad brass, or what?  

Anyway, it sounds like you're talking factory ammo, rather than reloads.  If it was me, I'd spend the off season buying different brands of factory ammo, and then target shooting from field positions out to that 350 yard line you mentioned, or farther.  Shoot rain or shine, windy or still, and be sure to shoot just as you would when hunting (if you don't use sand bags in your stand, don't use them when you practice).  If you varmint hunt, bring your deer rifle along, and try a few long range shots at the little critters with some 130 grain Nosler Ballistic tips (I think Federal offers them in a factory load).

By next hunting season, you'll know what your rifle likes best, and you'll be ready for the shot, even if it's a little breezy (if it's a stiff wind, I hope you let them come a little closer than 350, maybe 250, or even much closer).  Don't neglect the heavy bullets, up to 150 grains.  They'll hold their velocity very well over long range, and your rifle might just love them, as far as accuracy goes.

I seem to remember from an earlier post of yours that you've shot long range before, and that you hunt from a stand with a solid rest.  Just look out for those cross winds, and scrape up all the different kinds of practice ammo you can get your hands on.  Go ahead and try the cheapest stuff you can find, it might be accurate in your gun, and it will allow for more practice, to boot.  

You might see if any local youth groups offer reloading classes.  Sometimes Scouts or 4-H will have reloading clinics for teens, and it would give you a chance to churn out a bunch of custom ammo without buying a whole reloading set up.  Just save that brass, and ask around.  Good luck!

[deerslayer15]

...dads ruled out all winchester shells...

Howdy, there.  I reload, so I was wondering, what's wrong with Winchester ammo?  Are you talking about a product boycott thing, bad brass, or what?

The reason we don't shoot winchester ammo is cause of all the trouble we have had with it. We had trouble a few times with the shoulders of the shell splitting when you shot them. :eek: And once time they were split before we shot them. Read my post on the winchester forum "bad shell" it tells all about  them.

Your right I do shoot long ranges (with plenty of pratice under my belt) and do have a really firm rest to shoot from were I hunt. But the other place I hunt do not have so good a rest. That is why I am considering a bipod for my new gun.  

About groundhog hunting with my deer rifle. We do that as pratice for deer season every year. A few of us get together and ride around the hay felids (some long long long shot) and shoot groundhogs for the farmers. :grin:

Do you think I should start out buy shooting the cheapo ammo first. And should I get the same tips I'm gunna hunt with. Example: If I were to find that a winchester (witch wouldn't happen, just an example) 150 grain silver tips shoot best in my gun, could I pratice with the cheaper 150 grain PsP shells, or will they not shoot the same.  :wink:

[Lawdog]

...dads ruled out all winchester shells...

Howdy, there.  I reload, so I was wondering, what's wrong with Winchester ammo?  Are you talking about a product boycott thing, bad brass, or what?

The reason we don't shoot winchester ammo is cause of all the trouble we have had with it. We had trouble a few times with the shoulders of the shell splitting when you shot them. :eek: And once time they were split before we shot them. Read my post on the winchester forum "bad shell" it tells all about  them.

Your right I do shoot long ranges (with plenty of pratice under my belt) and do have a really firm rest to shoot from were I hunt. But the other place I hunt do not have so good a rest. That is why I am considering a bipod for my new gun.  

About groundhog hunting with my deer rifle. We do that as pratice for deer season every year. A few of us get together and ride around the hay felids (some long long long shot) and shoot groundhogs for the farmers. :grin:

Do you think I should start out buy shooting the cheapo ammo first. And should I get the same tips I'm gunna hunt with. Example: If I were to find that a winchester (witch wouldn't happen, just an example) 150 grain silver tips shoot best in my gun, could I pratice with the cheaper 150 grain PsP shells, or will they not shoot the same.  :wink:

Why not try Federal’s Premium Vital Shok 130 gr. loaded with Barnes TSX bullets.  I started my .270 WSM with TSX bullets and am getting excellent accuracy with them and have found no need to stop.  Lawdog
 

[leverfan]

Do you think I should start out buy shooting the cheapo ammo first. And should I get the same tips I'm gunna hunt with. Example: If I were to find that a winchester (witch wouldn't happen, just an example) 150 grain silver tips shoot best in my gun, could I pratice with the cheaper 150 grain PsP shells, or will they not shoot the same.  :wink:

Heck, I'd shoot the cheap stuff first.  Maybe you'll find a load that shoots well in your rifle, and is easy on the wallet, too.  We're talking deer here, not elk or brown bear, so why worry about premium bullets?  If a standard, inexpensive cup-and-core style bullet load drops into minute-of-venison sized groups at your intended hunting range, stick with it.  The 270 has been around a long time, and even the inexpensive bullets are darn good.

If you decide on a pricey load, and want to practice with a cheaper load, you're just going to have to shoot both and find out for yourself how each performs at long range.  

That's one of the many nice things about handloading.  I can shoot higher volumes for the same money, or I can tailor inexpensive practice loads to have the same point of impact as my hunting loads.  Usually, I go ahead and do most of my hunting rifle target work with hunting loads.  That means full powder charge under a premium bullet like the Nosler Partition.  It's not cheap, but it's a lot less than buying factory ammo.  I also learn everything there is to know about the load I'll actually use in the field.

As for Winchester brass, I've heard of the pistol brass splitting, but I'd still check the headspace in any rifle that had new factory brass split.  Of course, you said some of the brass was bad before you even shot.  My troubles with Winchester ammo involve .32 ACP Silvertips, and they've been posted on Self Defense.  Brass good, powder bad, in my case.  Winchester sent me two boxes of ammo when I brought the problem to their attention.  They worked better (the bullets actually made it through the paper & plywood target, instead of smudging it and falling on the ground, and the gun cycled).  I've had PMC 22 lr ammo blow apart, and PMC 300 Winchester mag ammo that was so hot it locked up my gun.  When folks try to sell me on the superior reliability of factory ammo, versus my reloads, I just have to disagree. :-D

[John R.]

I've had great luck over the years using the 130 gr. Nosler Partition. Year before last I tries the Hornady Interbond in my son's rifle. (130 gr.) It shoots under an inch all day. He's had six one shot kills with it. There are a lot of good bullets out there, pick one that your rifle likes, put the crosshairs where they are supposed to go, and go get your deer. :grin:

[deerslayer15]

Sportsmansguide.com has federal 130g Nosler Partition for 13 dollars. I think that is cheap. I am  thinkin about gettin a bow or two. But if they don't shoot right then I would be left with to boxes of shell that suck in my gun.

What do you guys do if you buy a box of shells and they do not shoot good. Your left with a box of shells you can't use so what do ya do with them. I'm thinkin of gettin some of my buddies to lend me 3 or 4 of there shells. Then if one of there brands shoot good then I will go buy that type of shell.

[Mac11700]

I haven't had any problems with Winchesters Premium line...very consistant...and very accurate out of my Handi's...you can also try some of the Hornady's Light Magnums...they work really good too...and they are usually loaded to a higher velocity than any of the standard loadings...even when the standard loading have the premium bullets in them..

Mac

[Lawdog]

Sportsmansguide.com has federal 130g Nosler Partition for 13 dollars. I think that is cheap. I am  thinkin about gettin a bow or two. But if they don't shoot right then I would be left with to boxes of shell that suck in my gun.

What do you guys do if you buy a box of shells and they do not shoot good. Your left with a box of shells you can't use so what do ya do with them. I'm thinkin of gettin some of my buddies to lend me 3 or 4 of there shells. Then if one of there brands shoot good then I will go buy that type of shell.

That is why I reload.  It doesn't cost as much as one would thing nor take up as much room either.  Reloading you can tailor your loads to fit what you hunt.  If a certain load doesn't shoot as well as you like then you adjust the powder charge or seating depth of the bullet to get the best accuracy possible.  PM me if you would like to talk about getting into reloading cheaply.  As for using premium bullets on deer it sure is nice if while hunting deer you come across something bigger, tougher and maybe meaner to have the best going for you.  Happens all the time.  Lawdog
 

[lowertroll]

Nosler is bringing the Solid Base Bullets back out---Hallaluyah.  They shoot the same as partitions and lose about 15% more weight than the partitions.  They are excellent on deer.  They are economical. There are now factory loads out using them.  They shoot well.
ps:  I have shot scads of Winchester factory ammo and components. I only had one problem with one box of ammo.  Other than that I have had great success and stick by their products.  If I had to rely on factory ammo to shoot deer with it would be Win Power Point ammo.  If you want some surprises get a chrony and run through a bunch of factory ammo.  I think you will be surprised at how far under the manufacturers stated velocity you find even (Especially) the "Premium" stuff. Again, if I was to use factory ammo, the Win stuff is as close to the charts and as consistent as any I have tried.

[jro45]

I reload and I use Serria 130 gr bullets for deer. :lol:

[147 Grain]

Use 150-gr. Nosler AccuBond or Ballistic Tips.

[kudzu]

LD - r u shooting fac or reloads in your 270wsm.

[Lou270]

I reload almost exclusively now, but out of the loads I have used, I would recommend the Federal Premium 150 Sierra BTSP or the 150 gr Hornady SP load.  I recommend these loads mainly because I believe they will shoot well in most .270s without bedding/scope issues and believe from one of your follow up posts you are looking for a low risk proposition.  The new 130 Nosler Partition and Fusion loads from Federal look promising, but haven't tried them yet.  If cost is an issue, I would look to the 130 gr. Rem Core-Lock load first of the non-premium varieties.

-Lou