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Offline jdbe

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« on: January 26, 2005, 03:27:30 PM »
Ok, what really works to allow me to easily rem,ove a breech plug after I shoot?  I tried teflon tape, but the threads on sidekick are too tight to allow it to stay in threads.  I then used actual plug lube that is supposed to keep it from freezing.  After 40 shots, I got home and payed the devil to just barely be able to free it - thought I was going to have to send it in.  I think I will weld a socket on the end of my removal tool as NEF used a rod through the removal tool to leverage - this is crap, a 1/2" socket is what it needs.
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« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2005, 03:38:17 PM »
Tell me that you are having those problems and you are not shooting Triple Seven. If you are that is a lot of the problem. Triple Seven has a very sharp initial light off and it sets the breechplug back into the threads which tends to seize the plug. You can try a metal loaded antiseize that they make for sparkplugs or you can go to another powder that does not cause the problem. Personally I do not shoot Triple Seven due to all  the problems it causes for me. I shoot Black Mag'3 and love it.
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« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2005, 04:48:14 PM »
Automotive anti-seize grease works for me. The plug comes out as easily as it goes in. I don't use 777 or 209 primers so that may have a lot to do with it :-)
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« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2005, 05:27:25 PM »
nope, not using trip 7 - just plain old pyrodex rs.
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« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2005, 05:02:21 AM »
I'm surprised to see the problem with Pyrodex. My breechplug in my Omega is pretty tight but the teflon tape works fine. Maybe you have some burrs on the threads that cut the tape. If on the breechplug you can run the plug on a wire brush to smooth it out. If it is internal burrs the problem is a little more difficult to fix. Maybe try some JB bore paste on the breechplug and run it in and out a few times to clean up the threads. I would try some cotton on a stick and see if it hangs up on the internal threads to see if you have burrs or sharp threads inside. Sorry but that is the best I can suggest other than the sparkplug anti-seize.
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« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2005, 05:11:18 AM »
Maybe the problem starts by you, overtightening the plug when you install it!
The breech plug doesn't need to be "white knuckle" tight!  Just snug!
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« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2005, 06:43:25 AM »
When I install my breech plug I use Shooter Choice high temp grease, and I just but the breech plug to where it stops in the barrel. I do not tighten it down just very light and snug.  :D
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« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2005, 07:33:01 AM »
if you were to coat the treads with copper anti-seize you could get the breech plug out with no trouble at all.useing triple 7 or not this stuff works.try some
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« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2005, 02:42:32 PM »
I use the TC brand plug lube but I'm sure all the other stuff posted works well. I use 777 seven and 209 primers in my Remington and have never had the plug stick, but I never shot a single rifle 40 times in one session. It will get tight on you especially if you overtighten it!
 How I over come the problem is I always install a breech plug finger tight! Then after a few shots, I will break the plug loose and tighten it right back not removing the plug. Never had a problem with a stuck plug on my rifle.
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« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2005, 02:50:47 PM »
I use Gorilla Grease and finger tighten the plug in my Encore.  Never had it freeze up with Pyrodex or 777 shooting up to 50 shots at a time.
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« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2005, 04:12:26 PM »
jdbe,

Try looking at these post - I have gone the other direction of all the lubes and the greases....

http://www.graybeardoutdoors.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=39309
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ok, makes sense
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2005, 06:53:07 PM »
I guess some of the problem is with me :)  I prob did tighten it more than finger tight thinking it will need to be fairly tight.  I will try again with just finger tight and check it every 5 shots for loosening.  is regular plumbing pipe tape ok to use with a little grease over it?  I never use any bore butter or other crap tp lube barrel - just run a patch with some bore cleaner designed to help remove plastic between each shot.  Without this ( just dry patch down between shots), the hornady sabots load too hard.  I use whinch breech plug grease.  Thanks
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« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2005, 07:12:18 PM »
The pics in link make it clearer that you want the end with tape on it - I had not done that.  I put some on with grease on the inside thereads and  will give it a go weather permitting.  Thanks again
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