Drill and Tapp Question, Genesis 1000 Rem

[whodowl]

Didn't get any responses to the Genesis 1000 question, but I bought it anyways as I have several Rem guns.  I really don't know nuthin about pellet guns and would appreciate any help.  Got a couple problems.

1)  I put a cheap Tasco (3x9x40SPL) on the thing and soon as I shoot the gun, the scope bases (weaver style 3/8")  moves back a good half inch or more, just one shot.  I have tightened it down as hard as i can and applied nail polish, but it does not help.  Should I have it drilled and tapped or try something else like a red dot?

2) the thing sounds like a .22 rifle when I shoot it. I purchased it so I could shoot it around the house and at the campground without attracting attention.  I didn't think pellet guns did that.  Is that normal, or am i suppose to put some kind of silencers on it.

Here is a link to the pellet rifle, if interested.  Thank you.  Whodowl
http://www.remington.com/other/airguns.htm


Thanks.  Whodow.

[alfsauve]

First understand the recoil on sping air rifles (springers) is much more severe than many firearms.  The scope and mount need to be made specifically for air guns.   Here's a link to some info:  http://straightshooters.com/genmenus/mmscopes.html

Start with the mount.   You need a good mount made specifically not to slip.  A one piece mount (Beeman 5040) or any mount with a scope stop pin, if the Genesis has a hole for the pin.  You can add a separate "scope stop"  that clamps on your rifle.  (Beeman 5090).

Then you need a decent air rifle scope.  Not just to handle the recoil but to give you an adjustable objective for the varying and usually short ranges.  Most .22lr scopes usually have their parallax setting for 50 yds.  With an airgun you want a scope that can be adjusted down to 10 yds.   Most airgun shooting is in the 10 to 40 yards range.

Lastly, yes, it'll be loud.  Pushing a pellet at or near the speed of sound requires a lot of air pressure and the pellet itself will generate a shock wave.    If you want quiet you'll have to give up velocity.

Alf

[Airsporter]

If your airgun sounds like a .22, its dieseling (i.e., excessive chamber oil is detonating).  Continued dieseling will damage the gun.  This is not acceptable. Take it back.

You can't use a regular scope on a "springer."  Buy a scope specifically designated as an airgun scope.  Bushnell has some reasonably priced models.  Also, you must use rings that have a "scope stop" pin or use a seperate one.  

I'm not familiar with whose airgun Remington has put their label on.  They certainly don't make it. They've definitely headed down a slippery slope in recent years (e.g., new Russian made "Spartan" firearms, Vietnamese made clothing, etc.).

Good luck.

[dave]

The Genesis is a lower end Crosman product. New guns, especially the cheaper ones, usually do diesel some when new. Theres almost always some oil in the chamber from the production process and factory lubing. It will burn off with use, and heavy pellets help the process along quicker.

[Lawdog]

whodowl,

As stated the scope and mounts you have are not suited for any springer rifle.  First the scope, a cheap Tasco, will not survive the double recoil of the rifle.  The mounts are made for use on .22 rimfire rifles.  You need mounts for a 11mm system.  The Remington Genesis 1000 isn't made by Remington.  In fact it is made by Crosman.  If you are getting a bit of smoke when you shoot it or smell smoke your rifle is dieseling and should clear up within 500 or so rounds.  It should be getting around 900 or so fps. using the lightest weight pellets you can get.  Even at that velocity it's going to be loud.  Just the nature of the beast.  Lawdog
 

[WCV_firefighter]

question, i just purchased a remington 1000x, the new one with a 9x40 scope included. i never heard of dieseling before. i do see slight smoke after shooting it, but then the next time i shot it, it didnt do it, is it bad? i bought this gun while out of town from bass pro shops and now i have no way of returning it unless i run it back there. so if any one knows the answer to my ? then please email me @ wcv_firefighter@yahoo.com , thanks!
~Cory