i got this one use a t a pawn shop here in housotn for 60 bucks, it is world class accurate. go to rimfirecentral, go to the marlin string, go to a string there called mod 60 pics and stuff, and you will see mine, and what it can do at 100 yds. they are the most accurate out of the box, cheapest, best customer service, hold the most rounds, very simple to takeapart, super reliable, and used at guns how here in houston , you can pickthem up for 80 to 100 bucks. some of the longer tube feds hold 17 plus 1 rounds!