i think you need to regain control of the situation. would you let your children decide such vital subjects? no, you need to re-establish control. were it me, i would 'talk' them into it. just like i used to 'talk' to those i outranked. a little something like... " you worthless bunch of rusting iron. ungrateful bunch of loathsome metal. question me? why i oughta...; have you forgotten where YOU came from? you think the cotton picking stork dropped you off into the cabinet? IF IT WERENT FOR ME, YOU ALL WOULD BE RUSTING UNDER THE SEAT OF A PICKUP SOMEWHERE!!! pitted with rust, action gritty, covered in dust. and probably no shot often, either. why, i work, and i slave, just to get enough ammo to make it from one week to the next; and THIS is the thanks i get. the next one of you that so much as even thinks about disagreeing with me is going to the brother-in-law's. when i want your opinion, i'll give it to you. now move your tail over, and make room for your new roommate! "