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« on: February 03, 2005, 01:51:19 PM »
I wanted to list some things about the Valmet 412's.  Perhaps you've run across one, and didn't know much about it???  I sold them for quite a while, and also reloaded for and hunted with them.  So over the years i've learned a bit about them.

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  They came with a single selective trigger, but there was a dealer installed double trigger option for about $55.00 extra.  No "set" trigger was offered.
 
  The tang safety was auto, but i never liked auto safetys, so "i" made up a conversion to convert it to "manual safety" and did the conversions in my shop.
 
  The bbls. had low profile sights, that you could flip up or fold down into the rib.  They were ajustable for "windage" only.  You ajusted the bbl. band for elevation.  The rifle bbl. could be ajusted or sighted with the two bands for any load you'd ever want!!
 
  The all steel Valmet scope mount was quick attach, and always went back to zero no matter how many times it went on or off!!
 
  I sold the Krieghoff 22lr or 22 Win. mag. insert bbl. (they were offered in 2 lengths)  and you could regulate "them" to the iron sights or scope.  These insert bbls. are "high grade", and shoot as well as a "good quality" bolt action rifle!!
 
  The early 412's had high gloss finish on the stock and forend, the later ones had an duller oil finish.
 
  The actions are strong and very well made, all of the 30-06 models i handloaded for easily shot under 1" groups for 5 shots at 100 yds..  I never had one returned to me because it wasn't accurate enough, not even one!!
 
  You can take the forearm off, or even the bbls. off, and never have to worry about  the POI (point of impact) changeing.  I kept mine apart, many times in my pack, and put it together and made longer shots with out ever worrying about a POI shift.  They just plain stay sighted in!!
 
  Valmet made many other bbls. (shot and double rifle) available for this action!! (something like 26)  They even sold cased sets with one action/forearm, and three bbls., a scope mount all in a hard case..  All serial numbered the same. (includeing the case)
 
  Worse thing i found with the 412's was, a customer would come in and buy a complete gun.  Then look for super deals in shot gun news for extra bbls..  Once they bought an extra bbl. they would try to fit the bbl. to the action themselves, and rarely do it right!!!  Next thing, they had the hindge pins "shot loose" and blamed the gun!!!  I saw this happen waaaay too many times!!!!  Sad part for them was, if you bought the bbl. from us, i'd fit it to your action for FREE!!
 
  Anyway, i just wanted to throw this into the mix here.
 
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Good information
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2005, 06:43:08 AM »
Thanks Drilling Man it's good to know, I'd love to run across one of these guns in good condition, a 30-06/12 with an extra set of o/u 20 barrels would be real nice. I'll keep my eye on the auctions.
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« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2005, 09:29:18 AM »
DM-

Did the Valmet ever come in 6.5x55 with  a 16 or 20 gauge?  I  don't know what it is but the Swede sure has caught my attention.

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« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2005, 09:55:03 AM »
I NEVER saw a 6.5x55 offered, BUT!!  Valmet made several "prototype" bbl. sets and maybe??????  I have a few of there prototypes, and who knows what i "didn't find???"  The one that i DID find and like is the 7x65R..  :>)))

  All the combi's, had 12 ga. on top, i never saw or heard of a combi in 16 or 20 ga...

  I never saw or heard of any shot bbls. in anything but 12 or 20 ga...

  BTW, i have extra bbls. sets around i'd be willing to part with includeing 0/U 20 ga sets...  I only have two actions, and don't want to sell either one at this time...  I only have some "bbls."  that "i don't need" and would part with, nothing else.

  If you go to the link, and scroll down to my name, you will see how the first 9.3x74R bbl. sets came to be in the U.S...  :>)))

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« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2005, 10:18:15 AM »
DM- What calibers have you seen?  All I've seen is 30-06 and .243.  If I were to find an action could I buy any 412 barrel set?  Just curious what the options would be.

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« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2005, 10:34:27 AM »
Drillings Man, if I may pick your brain, I have a question for you, as I am not very familiar with Valmet pricing, and you obviously are. I located a Valmet 412, original case, 2 sets of barrels 12/12 and 12/30-06. Wood has a satin finish, looks to be in excellent condition, and is claimed to not have been fired very much. He is asking $1,699. Would you consider this a reasonable price, or high? just trying to figure out when I run across a buy, if I should grab it. Thank you in advance.
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« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2005, 05:34:23 PM »
cgturner7

  I've seen combi's in 12-30-06, .308 Win., .243 Win., .222 Rem., .223, and some others that were prototypes, or spl. built by my shop.  (5.6x52R, 9.3x74R, 9.3x74R imp., .338 RDS, .375 RDS, .444 Marlin, and ???? i forget right now)

  All the bbls should fit any other action, BUT!!!  They need to be fit to "that" action...  If you don't know what your doing, don't try it, and just because a bbl will go on another action, does NOT mean it fits "properly"!!!



  winkman,

  I have NOT kept up on Valmet prices, and there's too many variables to "guess" on a price for you.  Checking on line would be your best bet.

  Only comment i can make on that price is, that, that's about what i would have sold that same gun ect.. for new,  10 years ago...  I'm not sure that tells you anything though???

  BTW, i'm not sure what "origional" case means, as only the (3) bbled cased sets came "with a case", it was "optional" in all other cases...  So, maybe that's what they ment, it was "Valmet" case??

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« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2005, 06:15:11 AM »
Thanks Drilling Man, at least it's a guidline, and I'll watch prices. Don't actually know if it's an original case, but it looks as though it was made for the gun, as everything has it's own compartment. I also forgot to mention that a 6x Zeiss scope is included with the package.
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« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2005, 02:12:26 PM »
That Zeiss scope would add some $$$, and that means it also has the Valmet scope mount too!!


  The deals getting better all the time!!  :>)))


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« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2005, 06:43:52 AM »
DRILLINGMAN

     I'd like to have a set of 9.3 x 9.3 barrels.
where can I get a set.

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« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2005, 04:36:35 AM »
Blaserman,

  Your going to have to watch the used market!!!  I have lots and lots of Valmet bbls. here, but i don't think i have any extra 9.3x74R double sets.

  Sorry i couldn't be of more help,

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« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2005, 02:12:48 PM »
DRILLINGMAN

              WHAT ELSE DO YOU HAVE FOR SALE. BARREL WISE I MEAN.

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« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2005, 02:26:41 PM »
I actually don't have a gun business going on here, what i have is a heck of a lot of Valmet 412 bbls that i don't need.  Many of them are still new, and most of them are shotgun bbls, or combi bbls.

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« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2005, 05:58:02 AM »
What barrels do you have , that you want to sell.
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« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2005, 07:42:28 AM »
Blaserman,

  I know i have "extra" 20 guage bbls, and probable some others??  I'm just not sure what, with out doing some digging around and giveing it some thought.

  I have about 30 bbl sets (or more?) around, almost all of them new in there boxs, but what to get rid of???  That's my problem???

  Sorry i don't have a better answer right at this moment...

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« Reply #15 on: May 05, 2005, 03:03:46 AM »
Valmet 412 is a good gun My Dad Grandpa and uncle all have one in 222/223 under 12 gauge they have killed many turkeys with theres. It is a much better rifle than the savage they will all do half inch groups or better at 100 yards with reloads. Savage did make a variant of the Valmet they should have keep that idea instead of the one they make
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« Reply #16 on: May 07, 2005, 06:23:57 AM »
I have read the posts in this forum with great interest, as I have always wanted an o/u rifle. I have a lead on a valmet 412 with 30/06 barrels at what looks to be a reasonable price. my question is are extra barrel sets available? and would there be some way to get an owners manual for this rifle, as I take it that it is not made any longer-at least thats what I think is the case. Thanks for any advice.

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« Reply #17 on: May 07, 2005, 07:52:58 AM »
I have read the posts in this forum with great interest, as I have always wanted an o/u rifle. I have a lead on a valmet 412 with 30/06 barrels at what looks to be a reasonable price. my question is are extra barrel sets available? and would there be some way to get an owners manual for this rifle, as I take it that it is not made any longer-at least thats what I think is the case. Thanks for any advice.

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« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2005, 03:28:16 PM »
tatwell,

  What 412 bbl. set would you like to have?

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