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Offline Tony D

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« on: February 06, 2003, 09:50:23 AM »
I will soon be the proud owner of a stainless Ruger Bisley in 45 Colt.  I think I've read where a few of you here own one.  My questions is:  will the throats likely need to be reamed?

I would also like to get your impressions.  I sure like Ruger's brushed stainless finish and the 5.5" barrel.
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« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2003, 09:56:25 AM »
*SIGH*

Ruger single action revolvers have the rather unfortunate reputation for having undersized chmber throats.  actually, that can happen with ANY revolver where the machining operation (rough and finish reaming) uses an undersized tool.

All you can do is shoot it extensively, test for accuracy with different loads, and inspect for chamber throat and bore leading.  

Don't be in a hurry to have someone ream out your chamber throats unless they really need it.
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« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2003, 10:09:01 AM »
I own one of the pistols you are getting, and it's indeed a fine revolver.  I measured the throats on my pistol (you can do this by slugging the throats, or by measuring with a internal ball gage set).  You typically can't measure them with a dial caliper.

Anyway, my bore slugs .451-.452, and my throats slug ~.449.  I chose to ream the throats to .4526.  I have not had any trouble with the pistol.  For what it's worth, I have another Ruger Bisley .45, with similar measurements, which I also reamed.

My opinion, you should be able to press your slugs thru the throats, with thumb pressure.  If you can't, you should size your slugs smaller or make your throats bigger.  I prefer to let the bore size the slugs, rather then relying on the slugs to "bump up" in diameter aftering be sized smaller in the throats.  

This all applies to cast lead bullets only.  I understand that jacketed bullets can be a different game, but I've never shot a jacketed bullet in a 45 Colt revolver.

HTH, Tom
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« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2003, 11:30:02 AM »
Even tho I'm sure not known as a Ruger fan I too own one of these and I have no complaints. Can you folks that know me believe that???  :)

I've not measured the throats and see no reason to. It shoots smaller groups than my tired eyes indicate it should. Only trouble is I need a taller front sight to shoot the loads I want to shoot. Ruger has provided it and now I just need to install it.

Cylinder is tight with the least play and no end shake that I've seen on a Ruger before. I took off one leg of the hammer spring and trigger pull is fine. I have no need for it to be any lighter and it isn't gritty or anything that might need work.

Yes folks I am totally surprised as Rugers generally disappoint me badly but this one doesn't. It is a keeper.

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« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2003, 12:50:23 PM »
Mine was a good shooter too with the right loads and the throats were not to far off. But my vaquaro was really bad so when I sent that cyl in I just sent them both. the gun doesnt shoot the loads it liked any better but alot of the loads that it does like shoot well now. That gun is the most consistantly accurate factory gun I have. IT shoots everything well. I had a good action job done on it and a belt mountain pin. I got the taller sight from ruger too. But just ordered a post front sight for that gun and the new stainless bisley .44 from clements.
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« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2003, 05:56:14 PM »
The one I was fortunate enough to pick up needed reaming, I sent it to Bob Mcleod aka throatdoctor. Cant say enough good. Excellent work, and I got my cylinder back in 5 days. Haven't had a chance to really wring it out yet, but groups are much improved.  In my instance some chambers I could push bullets through and others I couldn't hammer them through. Congrats on a fine handgun. Enjoy!!!
 mailto:throatdoctor@attbi.com
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« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2003, 02:17:02 AM »
Tony,

Have you considered just shooting the revovler before you go to monkeying around with it.  If, (and that's a big if) after you shoot it and it does not perform adequately; then you can go to reaming cylinders, cutting the forcing cone or anything else you think will improve the accuracy.

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« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2003, 12:55:11 PM »
My take on this subject is that if your going to shoot jacketed stuff you dont want cylinder throats that are .002-.003" smaller than the bullet. That cant be good. Lead rounds would be alot more forgiving but I cant see where it would be desirable to alter the bullet before it even makes it to the forceing cone. Isn't that its job?  Just my $.02   KN

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« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2003, 06:06:51 AM »
Thanks for your replies.  Regardless of any work I will have done, I plan to shoot it a bunch before doing it.   Ya can't buy a new gun, then not shoot it!  

Will probably stick to light cast bullet loads in it for my first loads.  I suspect it will need the chambers reamed and a new base pin - I think the Belt Mountain pins go in with no or only minor fitting.  I also may consider having the forcing cone cut to 11 degrees - just need to see how it will shoot.  

I eventually want to go with a 5 shot cylinder, just not sure who I will have do the job.  Have heard generally good comments about Phillips and Rodgers, although their work is not supposed to be up to Linebaugh's or Bowen's work, but then again, neither is the price!

Anybody here have the P&R 5 shot conversion?
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