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Offline msorenso

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« on: February 11, 2005, 05:37:02 AM »
W :D HO MAKES THE BRASS AND CAN CHAMBER A BUFFALO CLASSIC IN 45-120?
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« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2005, 06:00:25 AM »
Read the 2 threads below and you'll learn all you need. Basically you have 2 choices for the re-chamber, rent a reamer and do it yourself or have a gunsmith do it for ya. The only place that has the brass right now is Huntingtons, everyone else was out yesterday, Bell makes it and it can be bought from the owner of Bell, MAST Technology, $182 per 100. Huntingtons' price is $49 for 20. Best price on the brass was at Buffalo Arms, but they have it on backorder.

http://huntingtons.com/

http://www.graybeardoutdoors.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=53800

http://www.graybeardoutdoors.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=52552
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« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2005, 06:11:08 AM »
Track of the Wolf and Liberty are out, they don't know when they will get any....Don't know about The Possibles Shop.
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« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2005, 08:07:58 AM »
Wh does have brass?
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« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2005, 08:32:33 AM »
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The only place that has the brass right now is Huntingtons, everyone else was out yesterday, Bell makes it and it can be bought from the owner of Bell, MAST Technology, $182 per 100


MAST has 15000 rounds left, after that's gone, demand may result in more being produced, but I wouldn't count on it since they sold the Bell production line that produced obsolete brass....

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MAST Sells Bell Brass

MAST Technology has sold the production line associated with Bell Brass cartridge. The line produced custom and obsolete brass cases for Lazzeroni, Dakota, Federal and Kynoch, and products under the Bell headstamp. MAST will sell off the balance of the remaining inventory of items, like .45-120, .404 Jeffrey, .45-90, .470 N.E. and .45-110.

As part of the sale, MAST closed its Boulder City, Nev., facility and consolidated operations within its Lake City Army Ammunition Plant in Independence, Mo. MAST will continue to manufacture items for the Department of Defense and supply ammunition-manufacturing machinery to the industry.


http://www.masttechnology.com/caseprices.htm
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« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2005, 08:54:30 AM »
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The only place that has the brass right now is Huntingtons, everyone else was out yesterday, Bell makes it and it can be bought from the owner of Bell, MAST Technology, $182 per 100


YeeeeeeeOuch :eek: and I thought some of the Weatherby magnum stuff was bad...so Quick....are you going to take that 15K lot and make a small fortune off of it? :)  :)  :)

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« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2005, 08:56:34 AM »
iM JUST GETTING INtO RELOADING. WHICH DO YOU GUYS USE FOR THESE CASES.  THANKS :D
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« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2005, 09:13:18 AM »
I'm new too, so don't rely on me for providing reloading info....but....45-120 dies are available from Cabelas for $35, but from what I've learned, I think you can get by with just 45-70 dies without full length resizing, but I'll leave that determination up to those that know for sure. I'm going to be using a Lee Classic cast press since it has a huge opening and should be fine for the big 45-3ΒΌ" case. Hodgdon has load data for the 45-120, both for T7 and smokeless, but I'm only loading T7 since smokeless loads are not reliably consistent shot to shot in the big case.

http://www.hodgdon.com/data/muzzleloading/granular/t7cartridge.php

http://www.hodgdon.com/data/cowboy/lrrd.php#45-120

Lyman 7460506 Dies set for 45-120

Mac, I've already invested more money than I intended to and I haven't bought sights yet!! It's turning into one of those never ending projects.....I think! :roll: I only ordered the minimum 100, just to make sure I get some shooting out of the rechambered BC, I was gettin real nervous for a while since everywhere I checked, it was out of stock, then I read that the Bell production line had been sold....Jay, the MAST representative said they didn't know if or when anymore would be produced.....so I ordered 100 which will be all I'll ever need, maybe I'll even share em with someone if they want to..... :wink:
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« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2005, 09:29:02 AM »
Quick:

I would have to spring for another 100 just in case...ya know...since they may never be reproduced again...I would hazard a guess though if all production does cease...what their value would be in a few years,,,or their replacement cost....... :eek:

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« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2005, 09:32:55 AM »
I've always dreamed of investing in gold, silver, diamonds.............but never brass!! :eek:  :-D  :-D  :-D
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« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2005, 10:12:17 AM »
I know it's not quite the same but this month's Reloader magazine has an article by Mike Venturo on the .45-90. You might want to read that before you go all the way to the 120. It seems like the "90" might just be enough.

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« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2005, 02:21:39 AM »
I can tell you that all my research and reading on which one will work the best, I settled on the 45-90 because of the target work for me.  Its a no brainer as far as a hunting round.

The 45-100 was a great shooter until the 45-90 came on the scene, and then there is the 45-110 which was produced for hunting purposes.  The 45-120 did not make its way on the scene until well into the 1890's when Remington Peters produced the first cartridge casings for it, it was not even a Buffalo Harvest cartridge as it arrived too late.

I hope those loading for the 45-120 take heed and use Fg Goex instead of FFg and only use approx 115.0 gr of Fg.  Remember compression etc....

Hope you got some bengay for after shooting  :shock:  :eek:
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