Best way to hold them steady?

[longwinters]

I have shot my Glock 23 a couple of hundred rounds worth, but struggle to hold it steady.  Now I understand that "rock solid" is probably not going to happen with a pistol.  But I am bouncing around a lot.  Using two handed grip, doesn't seem to matter if I grip tight or loose.  Any tips?

Long

[herb40]

Practice dry firing watch your front sight when you squeeze the trigger if the front sight is moving you probably are using too much of your index finger on the trigger. You should be able to put a pencil between your index finger and the side of your slide when you are squeezing the trigger.

[longwinters]

Thanks for the advice Herb.

Long

[pete50]

Practicing dry firing is great. That should help. One thing I would suggest is field strip your gun and check to see what trigger spring you have installed. If you have a NY2 spring installed (it's an orange plastic piece near the tail end of the polymer frame - it's somewhat buried from top view, but you can still tell), this could be a major contributor as it is a very heavy pull and tends to upset trigger pull. I sometimes get the shakes from our Department 8 pound setup when taking one slow shot at a time. I would recommend the 5.5 or 8 pound setup over the NY2, preferably the 5.5.

 Good Luck

[longwinters]

What pound spring do Glocks come with from the factory?

Long

[iiibbb]

Almost all models come with a 5lb trigger spring and a 5lb connector.

Many switch to a 3.5 connector (~$20)

Others switch to a 3.5 and a NY 1 (~$20+$5)

These are pretty easy to install by yourself...  Glocks are rediculously simple in this department.

I think glockmeister has a table in there technical info that tells you what the effective trigger pull winds up being.  They also have information for glock disassembly.

[mikedb]

I have shot my Glock 23 a couple of hundred rounds worth, but struggle to hold it steady.  Now I understand that "rock solid" is probably not going to happen with a pistol.  But I am bouncing around a lot.  Using two handed grip, doesn't seem to matter if I grip tight or loose.  Any tips?

Long

Are you using the Isoceles or Weaver stance? Try both.  Also, the index finger of your weak hand can be used to add support to the trigger guard.  It will never be rock steady.  You only need to be close to the Xring not in it.  Spead time dry firing and concentrate on what your sight picture is doing.  It should not change during the action of trigger pulling.  I try to concentrate on the front sight and let the target and rear site blur out.  Take a break between mags.  Muscles get tired.  Iwas teaching a young woman to shoot this last weekend and her groups really opened up half way thru the mag.  BTW where are you in the UP eh??

[HouseofCash]

Rock steady? Sure you can be rock steady. With a Glock 23 me and many of my close friends have put 20 even 40 rounds though a 3 inch hole at 25-40 feet, with out throwing any out of the hole. It could take 1000+ rounds to really learn your handgun and how it shoots, it could take just as long to get in the habbit of doing the same thing over and over every time. 3 things is what you need, grip, stance, trigger pull, thats it.

Try this and tell me what you think. If your right handed, put the gun tight in your hand, you want it real snug, your fore arm muscles should be tight. Then, take your right thumb and put it over your slide release. Take your left hand and put your left thumb over your right thumb. Put your pointer finger on your left hand infront of your trigger guard.

Like so.






I use both stances.

Weaver.*Note* If you are right handed put your right foot back and have foot pointed at a 45% angle. Front foot should be pointed at the target. Feet should be sholder langth apart, maybe alittle less.



Isoceles. *Note* Im really leaning into the shot and both eyes are open. I use this for double tapes and rapid fire mostly.



No matter what you should hold your breath while pulling the trigger, and pull the trigger slow, real slow, same amount of pull front start to finish.

      Dave.

[longwinters]

house,

Nice pics.  Thanks for the effort.

Long

[coyote 2]

HouseofCash

No matter what you should hold your breath while pulling the trigger, and pull the trigger slow, real slow, same amount of pull front start to finish.

I have to disagree with you on this point - you should be exhaling air as you pull the trigger - Holding your breath makes the heart beat harder - and therefore causes a heavy pulse beat in your body.

Put your pointer finger on your left hand in-front of your trigger guard

also on this point - placing your finger on the front of the trigger guard - if your not a person who shoots  a lot - "may" allow you to push or pull the weapon to the right or left. If the index finger in placed on the knuckles of your right hand - you can create a push - pull effort and will not push the weapon to the right/left.

Otherwise I think your right on target and your -weaver/Isosceles stance works pretty dang well - it amazes me that for years the Weaver stance was taught as a standard way to shoot - then they came up with the Isosceles stance. Now as an instructor -  we are being taught to train our student/officers to go back to the Weaver stance. Maybe they had it right - (the FBI) the first time around.

Good shooting ---  

[HouseofCash]

have to disagree with you on this point - you should be exhaling air as you pull the trigger - Holding your breath makes the heart beat harder - and therefore causes a heavy pulse beat in your body

I could not agree more. Sorry I was not thinking clearly. Back when I was shown the fundamentals of shooting I was told to hold my breath, after many years of holding my breath, it has became habbit, I have got used to it and do not notise the heart beat any more. But, you are right I would not recomend it for a new handgunner. I would try to change it myself, if I was not such a freek about doing the same thing every time and change.

          Dave.

[coyote 2]

HouseofCash

I could not agree more. Sorry I was not thinking clearly. Back when I was shown the fundamentals of shooting I was told to hold my breath, after many years of holding my breath, it has became habbit,

Besides - at my age - if I hold my breath too long - I may not recover. Have to be careful here.....   :-D

[jro45]

I use this now and then. Pull a little with your right hand and push a little with your left hand. That should steady you up some. Good Luck!