I agree with that sentiment, I'll never buy another Ruger with the skeleton stock either. Mine is a 338 and is the worst kicking rifle I have, and the worst I ever have had. I have had 375 h&h's and have a 458 now, neither of them hurt like the Ruger. I am looking at the Hogue stock also, or ordering the laminated one from Ruger. I have heard that the Hogue helps in the recoil department, but havent tried one myself. Then too, the temptation is great to sell or trade the Ruger and get another Winchester 375 or a CZ.