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« on: February 13, 2005, 04:59:45 AM »
Health officials find new, virulent HIV strain in New Yorker
 
By HENRY GOLDMAN
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New York City doctors have discovered a man with a previously unseen strain of HIV that is resistant to three of the four types of anti-viral drugs that combat the disease, and progresses from infection to full-blown AIDS in two or three months, the health department said.
"We've identified this strain of HIV that is difficult or impossible to treat and which appears to progress rapidly to AIDS," said New York City Health Commissioner Thomas Frieden. "We have not seen a case like this before. It holds the potential for a very serious public health problem."

The case was diagnosed in a New Yorker in his mid-40s who reported multiple male sex partners and unprotected anal sex — often while using the drug crystal methamphetamine.

"It is likely there are others infected with this strain and this individual has infected others," Frieden said. The case is "extremely concerning and a wake-up call," he said.

Antonio Urbina, medical director of HIV education and training at St. Vincent's Catholic Medical Center, site of one of Manhattan's largest AIDS clinics, said the patient's use of crystal methamphetamine shows that the drug "continues to play a significant role in facilitating the transmission of HIV." The drug reduces peoples' inhibitions and their likelihood of using condoms or other forms of safe sex, he said.

'Alarming'

While drug resistance is increasingly common among patients who have been treated for HIV, cases of three-class antiretroviral-resistant HIV — or 3-DCR HIV — in newly diagnosed, previously untreated patients are extremely rare, and the combination of this pattern of drug resistance and rapid progression to AIDS may not have been seen previously, the health department said in a news release.

The strain found in New York was "highly unusual," said Ronald Valdiserri, 53, deputy director of the National Center for HIV, Sexually Transmitted Diseases and Tuberculosis at the U.S. Centers for Disease Control, in an interview.

"We're talking about a single case, but clearly the fact that we are dealing with such broad resistance of drugs and the rapid clinical progression is quite alarming," Valdiserri said.

U.S. health officials intend to contact clinics across the country to set up a surveillance system for the HIV strain, he said. City officials are working to identify, contact and counsel the patient's sex partners, Frieden said.

Fuzeon

Frieden said the one drug the HIV strain isn't resistant to is Enfuvirtide, sold under the trade name Fuzeon, developed by Trimeris Inc. of Durham, North Carolina, and Roche Holding AG of Switzerland. The problem, Frieden and other physicians said, is that this drug is most effective when used in a "cocktail" with other retrovirus drugs such as nucleoside reverse transcriptase inhibitors, non-nucleoside reverse transcriptase inhibitors and protease inhibitors.

Trimeris stock closed at $13.60, up 86 cents or 6,75 percent, in composite trading on the Nasdaq, the biggest single- day percentage gain since Sept. 10, when it rose 11.49 percent, and down $4.63 from $17.93 a year ago. Roche shares traded at 123.2 Swiss Francs, up 0.5 francs, in composite trading in Zurich, down six Swiss Francs from a year ago.

The news "is probably positive for Trimeris," said Sharon Seiler, a biotech analyst with Punk, Ziegel & Co., which she said owns no shares in the company, though it does act as a market maker. Fuzeon's required twice-daily injections and the need to mix the solution for 20 minutes "have been significant impediments to the drug's sales" in two years on the market, she said.

Fast onset

The drug, which costs a patient an average $20,000, is the first in a class called fusion inhibitors that work by preventing HIV from infecting healthy cells.

The infected New Yorker had gone for AIDS tests frequently over the years and tested negatively until December, when he tested positive for the virus, Frieden said. Physicians believe he became infected in October.

"In this patient's case, onset of AIDS appears to have occurred within two or three months and at most 20 months after HIV infection," Frieden said. The patient, whose name was withheld, has symptoms usually associated "with someone who has very advanced disease," he said.

The normal time of progression from infection to full-blown AIDS in an untreated patient is about nine years, with death following within 18 months, said Carlie Stanton, a spokeswoman for the U.S. Centers for Disease Control in Atlanta. For someone treated with anti-viral drugs, the average progression to disease from infection is 11 years, with death occurring within an average six years, Stanton said.

Watching for cases

Doctors at the Aaron Diamond AIDS Research Center in Manhattan diagnosed the patient, Frieden said. David Ho, director of the center, said that while this represents a single case, "it is prudent to closely watch for any additional possible cases while continuing to emphasize the importance of reducing HIV risk behavior."

Persons diagnosed and living with HIV/AIDS in New York City totaled 88,479 out of a total population of 7.3 million in calendar year 2003, the last year in which statistics are available.
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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2005, 11:37:30 AM »
They are bound and determined to self-destruct.  GAF.

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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2005, 01:10:43 PM »
Hope you never need any human blood products.  Doubt any of them ever wanted aids any more than you would want to have a gun accident.

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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2005, 07:00:57 PM »
Dang Klinton could take out the entire straight female population of New York single handedly :eek:  :eek:  :shock:
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« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2005, 01:09:01 AM »
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Dang Klinton could take out the entire straight female population of New York single handedly
Hillary or Bill, inquire Dali Llama? :)  :-D  :)
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« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2005, 01:20:18 AM »
Folks, the fastest growing group to be infected by this disease are women in the 50+ age bracket.
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« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2005, 10:31:21 AM »
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Dang Klinton could take out the entire straight female population of New York single handedly
Hillary or Bill, inquire Dali Llama? :)  :-D  :)


Good Point! I meant Bill but Hillary does look a little butch??????????
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« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2005, 12:12:46 PM »
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Folks, the fastest growing group to be infected by this disease are women in the 50+ age bracket.
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"Fastest growing" usually means something like "one case last year, three this".
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« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2005, 12:41:58 PM »
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Dang Klinton could take out the entire straight female population of New York single handedly
Hillary or Bill, inquire Dali Llama? :)  :-D  :)


Good Point! I meant Bill but Hillary does look a little butch??????????
:)  :-D  :lol:  :D
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« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2005, 02:13:47 PM »
fe352v8, williamlayton,
Nobody, of course, wants AIDS, but if you're going to fornicate like bunnies, or share needles, you've got only yourself to blame.
AIDS takes about 11 years to develpoe from an HIV infection.  How many of those 50+ aged women have been screwing around since the summer of love?  How many had blood transfusions before blood was screened?  How many are in Africa?  The statistic is irrelevant.

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« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2005, 07:00:26 PM »
Shorty,

You forgot this is America, we've got lawyers so we do not have to blame ourselves.  However world wide AIDs is growing fastest among heterosexual non-drug users.  Sure abstinence has proven effective but many people are not convinced of the benefits, so maybe it's is better to make condoms available and give junkies clean needles.  It would be cheaper then caring for people stricken with AIDs.  I'm just a liberal but I sure do enjoy the discussions and have learned a lot and even, Ted Kennedy forgive me, reevaluated some of my views.

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« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2005, 01:11:04 AM »
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maybe it's is better to make condoms available and give junkies clean needles.  
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« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2005, 08:56:31 AM »
Fe352v8, Liberal???? I would be ashamed to admit it!  :x  :eek:  :x  :roll:
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« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2005, 09:21:37 AM »
Sounds good to me.


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« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2005, 12:50:41 PM »
Ignorance kills.  What is the diffrence between liberals and conservatives, one taxes and spends and the borrows and spend; either way we pay.  One can see many profess their faiths, but rarely does on see it practiced.  While heeding biblical prohibitions would eliminate all behavior induced ills, it  is readily apparrent that few if any humans are able to abide by them.  Maybe I missed something but what happened to all that; love thy neighbor, judge not lest ye be judged, thou shalt not kill stuff.  The sincerity of ones beliefs can be readily assertained by their actions and words.  If they are going to talk the talk than should walk the walk.

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« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2005, 01:13:46 PM »
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The sincerity of ones beliefs can be readily assertained by their actions and words.  
That indeed be true, concur Dali Llama.  Dali suggest accordingly that fe352v8 should recall ancient Tibetan proverb which state that yak who reside in glass barn should not spit rocks. :-)  :D
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« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2005, 07:57:41 PM »
Considering all liberal Politicians want to take away our guns I cannot see any gun owner considering them selves liberal!
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« Reply #17 on: February 16, 2005, 12:17:21 AM »
Actually JH, a true liberal, not someone with a social agenda, should support your gun rights.  Only the narrowest or most conservative reading of the 2nd amendment would remove the right of the individual and replace it with a state or collective right, merely because the stated purpose of the individuals right to keep and bear arms is to provide for a millita.  Someone who is truly liberal wants a broadening of individual rights, not a curtailment.

I think those that you see as liberal politicians are more accurately mis-guided social engineers.  Those that you may see as conservative politicians are the same ones that are curtailing some of your rights, like privacy.

Do not know about you but to me it is like being between a rock and a hard place.  But one thing you can count on with a politician, they will do it for money and or power, whatever you call them.

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« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2005, 01:04:09 AM »
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those that you see as liberal politicians are more accurately mis-guided social engineers.  
They be misguided alright, say Dali Llama. :twisted:  :evil:  :x
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« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2005, 08:11:30 AM »
Call them what you want a skunk is still a skunk even if you dye his fur all black. Or as Dali would say they are "nogoodniks"  8)
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« Reply #20 on: February 16, 2005, 07:39:15 PM »
Looking on the bright side; a faster, deadlier AIDS will mean less time for those infected to spread it around. Not PC but true.

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« Reply #21 on: February 18, 2005, 08:50:05 AM »
I'm sure there are people out there that preach abstinence and practice it.  But those are few and a definite minority.  So I definitely have to back the teaching and use of condoms, and I hate to say this but even to our children.  Otherwise this disease is going to devastate the heterosexual world as well. I keep hearing "It's a gay disease, let it take them out".  Wrong it's crossed over and straight people are at just as much risk as the gays.  For a lot of those that preach abstinence they don't follow their rules them selves.  Look at Jimmy Swaggart.
 
 As a child I was forced to go to a one of those Southern churchs where the preacher spouted fire and brimstone every sunday.  He definitely tole us where we were going if we did not follow the straight and narrow, and all the deacons amend.
 
Then as a teenager I was granted permission by the courts to work in a night club in Nashvilles Printer's Ally, since I was planning a career in the music industry.  I sat in the back of the stage area in a very inconspicious location.  I could see the people in the club, but they could not see me well.  In a month I had seen all but one of those deacons in the club.  Everytime they were accompanied by women, and it was not their wives.  One night a young widow who attended the church was seen at the club, out with her new boyfriend.  The deacons went into a panic.  Next Sunday the preacher called her up before the congregation.  She was accused of things that a member of this church would not be doing.  I stood up and spoke in her defense saying "You have always taught me to forgive my neighbors.  So lets forgive her and go on.  She's not the only member of this church to go to that club".  I meant myself, but I looked at one of the deacons standing beside the preacher.  The preacher slapped me so hard he knocked me to the floor, and stunned me.  The deacon grabbed me hit me in the face with his fist and then held me up calling me a heretic or something like that, and carried me through the crowd to the front doors.  The woman was also dragged to the front door.  At the doors they physically threw me down the stone steps, breaking my arm, right ankle, and three ribs.  My parents were told to never let me darken their door again.  My mother has never forgiven me for that, and feels that it was my fault.  She still condoms me for being excommucated from the church over a woman.  
 
And all that was to protect the deacons, that were chasing the Ladies Of The Night.
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« Reply #22 on: February 18, 2005, 10:09:57 AM »
Condoms? Hahaha!  :lol: I got news for you folks. The AIDS virus is small enough to migrate through the pores of the latex. What'cha gonna do now?
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« Reply #23 on: February 18, 2005, 11:18:43 AM »
Wear two?

kind of ashamed but now a days, anything you might; eat, drink, smoke, or sleep with, threatens to kill you.  Well, at least I am old enough, that I can not eat or drink, the way I used to, I quit smoking, and between kids and work dating is limited, but I have fond memories of my mis-spent youth.

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« Reply #24 on: February 18, 2005, 09:45:25 PM »
Yea talk about everything you take is bad for you.  In 92 I started taking Naprosyn, for arthritis.  I had been taking Motrin since the mid 80s, and it had gotten to where it no longer worked.  I took the Naprosyn till 2000 when it quite working.  The doctor put me on Celabrex.  I took that for about eight months, It caused me to retain water and swell up.  I was also gaining a lot of weight.  The doctor then switched me to Vioxx,  I took the Vioxx for two years. During that time I had to have a heart by-pass in the spring of 2001.  In November 2002 I was again hospitalized for chest pains, the Cardiologist told me to quite taking Vioxx, and that my by-pass was not working properly.  The doctor then put me on Bextra.  I took that till November 2004.  At that time I was again hospitalized for chest pains, and had to have a stint put in because my by-pass had totally failed.  The doctor said not to take anymore Bextra, to go back to the Naprosyn.  Then in Febuary 2005 they took me off the Naprosyn and put me back on Motrin.  Now we are hearing that it is also bad for heart patients.  Now it looks like if the heart or arthritis don't kill me the medications will.
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« Reply #25 on: February 19, 2005, 04:34:16 AM »
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I'm sure there are people out there that preach abstinence and practice it.  But those are few and a definite minority.  So I definitely have to back the teaching and use of condoms, and I hate to say this but even to our children.  Otherwise this disease is going to devastate the heterosexual world as well. I keep hearing "It's a gay disease, let it take them out".  Wrong it's crossed over and straight people are at just as much risk as the gays.  For a lot of those that preach abstinence they don't follow their rules them selves.  Look at Jimmy Swaggart.
 
 As a child I was forced to go to a one of those Southern churchs where the preacher spouted fire and brimstone every sunday.  He definitely tole us where we were going if we did not follow the straight and narrow, and all the deacons amend.
 
Then as a teenager I was granted permission by the courts to work in a night club in Nashvilles Printer's Ally, since I was planning a career in the music industry.  I sat in the back of the stage area in a very inconspicious location.  I could see the people in the club, but they could not see me well.  In a month I had seen all but one of those deacons in the club.  Everytime they were accompanied by women, and it was not their wives.  One night a young widow who attended the church was seen at the club, out with her new boyfriend.  The deacons went into a panic.  Next Sunday the preacher called her up before the congregation.  She was accused of things that a member of this church would not be doing.  I stood up and spoke in her defense saying "You have always taught me to forgive my neighbors.  So lets forgive her and go on.  She's not the only member of this church to go to that club".  I meant myself, but I looked at one of the deacons standing beside the preacher.  The preacher slapped me so hard he knocked me to the floor, and stunned me.  The deacon grabbed me hit me in the face with his fist and then held me up calling me a heretic or something like that, and carried me through the crowd to the front doors.  The woman was also dragged to the front door.  At the doors they physically threw me down the stone steps, breaking my arm, right ankle, and three ribs.  My parents were told to never let me darken their door again.  My mother has never forgiven me for that, and feels that it was my fault.  She still condoms me for being excommucated from the church over a woman.  
 
And all that was to protect the deacons, that were chasing the Ladies Of The Night.


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« Reply #26 on: February 19, 2005, 06:00:18 AM »
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Condoms? Hahaha!  :lol: I got news for you folks. The AIDS virus is small enough to migrate through the pores of the latex.

Are Condoms Effective
Against AIDS?

When properly used, condoms create a strong protective barrier to the spread of many sexually transmitted diseases (STDs).

Early in the AIDS epidemic, scientists theorized that condoms would help prevent AIDS because the virus that causes the disease is roughly the size of herpes and other viruses which are unable to penetrate latex; further, neither air nor water can pass through condoms even though their molecules are a 1,000 times smaller than such viruses.

In 1985, a rigorous laboratory study demonstrated that AIDS virus could not get through condoms. Throughout the 80's and 90's both clinical and human studies of condom effectiveness have continued to reach the same heartening conclusions. Further, continuing studies of people at high risk for HIV infection who use condoms regularly are confirming these findings. Sexologist and others in the AIDS prevention field are more convinced than ever that condoms have an extremely important role in preventing the spread of AIDS.

Condoms also prevent the transmission of most STDs and several of the opportunistic infections or cofactors of HIV/AIDS. For example, they help stop genital transmission of cytomegalovirus (CMV), Epstein-Barr virus (EBV), herpes, chancroid, gonorrhea, and syphilis.

(Note: If there are lesions on the labia or scrotum, obviously condoms do not cover those areas and will not stop genital transmission of these STD's in this case.)
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« Reply #27 on: February 20, 2005, 06:45:44 AM »
There is a myriad of research out there to show that condoms are effective against STD's and unwanted pregancies.  They only fail if they burst or have microfractures (this is only around 2% of the time IIRC).  

It's a good thing to educate people (especially children) about these things.  AIDS isn't spread more readily amongst homosexuals;  in their earlier days (the 80's) of the virus it was more common amongst that group b/c of the frequency that they changed sexual partners, but it's long crossed the barrier into heterosexuals.  Now we have younger kids getting it when they ought to know better.  Heck we've got women being infected because their husbands were unfaithful and didn't use protection.  Sex education is an important thing and properly done can seriously reduce the occurance of diseases like AIDS.

Sourdough: How long ago did this occur and where? I know I'd have had those hippocrits charged with assault and battery in a hearbeat.

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« Reply #28 on: March 12, 2005, 10:02:20 AM »
Remember this;
  You can tell the truth and still lie...if you are a typical liberal playing with statistics.
  Let's take a hypothetical case in the fictitious town of Zigville...
 
     In this small city last year there were some 1154 homosexuals with HIV.
 
  Last year, there was 1 @ 50+ year old woman with HIV...

   This year 115 more homosexuals were diagnosed with HIV and 1 @ 50+ woman was diagnosed with HIV..

   
    Liberal newspaper headlines next day:
         
   "Homosexuals with HIV grew by less than 10%, while Women in the

    50+ age group with HIV grew by a 100% rate."


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« Reply #29 on: March 12, 2005, 10:07:27 AM »
Anybody who would take a 2% chance of contracting HIV is an idiot.  It's not too much better than Russian Roulette. Abstinence is the best approach.  I would never recommend condoms for that reason.  Stupid is, as stupid does.
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