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Offline IowaBuckHunter

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New pelt saving round for the 204
« on: February 15, 2005, 08:12:43 AM »
The new 204 ruger has proven to be the most accurate small bore round available.  It screams at 4225 FPS with FACTORY ammo.  It is a very impressive round with its speed, accuracy, mild recoil and report, and it is also a better round for windy conditions.  

The biggest downfall to this round from my experience and from others as well is that it is a very explosive round and tends to cause a lot of pelt damage.  Luckily for us there is a NEW round from winchester that offers a 34 grain Nosler bullet that offers 4025 FPS.  This is the perfect round for the guys who want to shoot fox and coyote and not blow them up (although explosions are fun to see, so is a $40 pelt).  The bullet is a hollow point which will not explode on impact, yet offer a lot better penetration.  The VMAX bullets from hornady (also the new remington ammo, which is the SAME bullet as the hornady) explode on impasct which prove ideal on prairie dogs and other small game, but I like to see a little better penetration on my dog hunting.  I have lost a few dogs  due to lack of penetration, and I have been lucky enough to get my hands on some of the new winchester stuff and it gets er done on the yotes.  I shot one yesterday at 225 yds and had it exit, with minimal damage to the pelt.  

I was a little happier with the accuracy of the hornady ammo through my custom remington where I averaged under .25" groups at 100 yds off the bench.  I now average .37" with the winchester stuff, but that is still good groupings.  

So in summary, use the hornady for your priaire dogs, and the winchester on the fox and yotes if you like to save your pelts.

Good luck on getting the ammo right now though-  it is tough to get.
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New pelt saving round for the 204
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2005, 09:06:33 AM »
Thanks for the report I will definitly try the rounds when they show up. It won't be in tim for this season but I will look at them for next year. One thing how did you find out that they were nosler heads (very good news if confirmed).
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My .204 is going away!
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2005, 03:28:55 PM »
V.M.,

I really like this new round and was anxious to christen it on a coyote. Well, I called in two and had one broadside at 20 yds. :grin:  He just looked at me and ran away! :shock:  Why? you say; well you see I bought a lil Savage in .204 and found that when the temp outside is cold and you're wearing gloves, you can't get the safety off when it is brought to arms!!! :evil:  I almost wrapped that lil sucker around a tree! :cry:

Sooo, I have decided that the coyote gods are upset that a true Remington man would buy another brand of rifle thus causing my misery. Now that lil Savage is going down the road and is going to be replaced with a Rem LVSF chambered for the .204. :)  :grin:  :D

I can't wait to try the new ammo from Win. Sounds as tho your rifle likes them a lot. I think most firearms so chambered will be minute of coyote.

Good Hunting--1722Magamn

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New pelt saving round for the 204
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2005, 07:29:52 AM »
I found out they were noslers by calling my winchester rep.  I am a gun salesman and wanted more info on the round, so I called up my local rep and got the info, and sweet talked him into sending me some boxes.  Plus Nosler makes many of the winchester bullets.
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HMMM, GunSalesman eh?
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2005, 02:59:03 PM »
IBH,

I think tou need to send me a new rifle and some of that new ammo right away. :)  hehe. Can't wait till my local gun shop has the new ammo available.

Am gonna start pricing the Rem in .204.

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New pelt saving round for the 204
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2005, 10:59:52 PM »
Hi i seen on Nosler web site on the chat room where they are talking about making a bullet for the 204 i think  Nosler bullet will be a better bullet for coyotes than a v-max bullet  becaue i think the nosler holes together a little better an a v=max good luck with the 204 i think i will keep my 22 250 VM :D