Author Topic: Questions on a TC Encore (Lots of 'em, sorry) (Read 765 times)

handirifle · « **on:** February 16, 2005, 07:13:54 AM »

Hi all, my first post on THIS forum. As you can see I've hung around GB's site for a while, mostly in the H&R area.

Lately I have been mulling over the idea of a TC Encore (pistol) ,in 30-30 for start, but have some questions for the experienced.

First of I live in CA, are there any issues with CA laws that anyone knows of?

Next, does the Encore handle all the same cartridges the G-2 does? And is that more than the Contender?

Did they fix the re-cock issue (having to re-open the action) of the Contender wiith the Encore?

Is the Encore that much better than the Contender, and what is the diff between the encore and the G-2?

Can the Encore be converted to a rifle?

I saw a new Encore receiver on gunsamerica.com for $335, is this a good price? Should I get them separate, barrel/receiver, or buy as a unit? What is a good price either way?

I saw mention of a barrel on Midway, is this a good source for them?

Sorry for all the questions, just have a lot of thoughts on this gun. Funny thing, is the TC rifle looks never appealed to me much, but I like the look of the pistol.

Thanks to all that answer.

One more, how well, over all, do you like your TC's?

southern utah · « **Reply #1 on:** February 16, 2005, 07:32:20 AM »

First of I live in CA, are there any issues with CA laws that anyone knows of? CAN'T HELP YOU THERE.

Next, does the Encore handle all the same cartridges the G-2 does? And is that more than the Contender? ENCORE DOES NOT SHOT RIMFIRE BUT EVERYTHING ELSE AND MORE

Did they fix the re-cock issue (having to re-open the action) of the Contender with the Encore? YES, G2 IS LIKE ENCORE

Is the Encore that much better than the Contender, and what is the diff between the encore and the G-2? ENCORE IS LARGER THUS STRONGER AND A LITTLE HEAVIER, CAN GET LARGER CALIBERS THAN G2. NO RIMFIRE.

Can the Encore be converted to a rifle ? YES JUST CHANGE STOCKS AND USE A 16" OR LONGER BARREL[/b]

rickyp · « **Reply #2 on:** February 16, 2005, 10:17:29 AM »

southern utah has everything right but
You can get an aftermarket adapter and custom barrels for the encore to shoot rim fires.
VVGW use to make them, I think you can still get them and have a norther custom barrel maker make you the rim fire barrel.

handirifle · « **Reply #3 on:** February 16, 2005, 10:23:57 AM »

Thanks for those answers.

I really don't mind about the rimfire part but had forgot about that feature.

Now for the rest

I saw a new Encore receiver on gunsamerica.com for $335, is this a good price? Should I get them separate, barrel/receiver, or buy as a unit? What is a good price either way?

I saw mention of a barrel on Midway, is this a good source for them?

Are you Encore owners happy overall with them?

poncaguy · « **Reply #4 on:** February 16, 2005, 11:25:59 AM »

My complete Encore SS 50 cal black powder rifle was $525. Bought a 7mm-08 barrel for $219 and 204 Ruger barrel for $230, so a complete encore would be cheaper, Very accurate and easy to carry, endless list of barrels.

handirifle · « **Reply #5 on:** February 16, 2005, 03:37:50 PM »

Well I just checked with a local dealer and the TC Encore "pistols" are not sold in CA. What a $%^&&%^%#%^ stupid state!!!!!

He says TC says in April, BUT he said they said that LAST year too. I can get the rifle but not the pistol. I know the barrels fit but it is against Fed law to put pistol barrel on Encore rifle receiver.

So I guess I wait.

CA has some stupid drop test safety test that ALL handguns have to go through, except single action revolvers. Go figure! The caveot is it's expensive, so of course ,any makers say forget it which is exactly what Feinstien and Boxer (Dem Senators) want. It has NOTHING to do with safety and EVERYTHING to do with discouraging sales.

Tad Houston · « **Reply #6 on:** February 16, 2005, 04:12:54 PM »

You can buy a T/C handgun in Ca. if it is a pivate party transfer- meaning it was already registered in Ca. before the law. You have to get lucky though. I found 3 contender frames inside two weeks on the auction sites. They cost me slightly more, but not much. Also Guns America classified is a good place to look- found one on there that was 40 minutes away from my house. just keep looking at the area codes, and use a phone book to look them up. Worked for me!

will227457 · « **Reply #7 on:** February 16, 2005, 07:29:13 PM »

I live in CA and own a T/C encore Rifle that I bought last year in the bay area. I purchased a grip and forend to convert it to a pistol, no one knows the diffrence and I use it both as a rifle and pistol. I say go for it get your encore.

handirifle · « **Reply #8 on:** February 17, 2005, 07:36:03 AM »

Tad
Yea i found that out at the second dealer I went to. Will have to keep an eye out for one.

Will, One dealer actually "suggested" I do that and when I informed him that was creating a short barreld rifle under the NFA act I said I didn't want to chance it. All one has to do is get caught once for ANY reason and when they find out it is listed as a rifle, you could lose all your guns and the right to ever own any more. Not worth it to me.

I called TC this morning but all I got was a guys voice mail. I'll be suprised if he calls back. I'll call later today, again. I'm also checking with BATF about the process of converting a NEF to a pistol (legally). I am aware of the NFA regs and am seeking to see if it can be re-listed as a pistol, for the purpose of adding other barrels, just in case TC decides not to do business here.

handirifle · « **Reply #9 on:** February 18, 2005, 12:15:39 PM »

Well I fired off a letter via snail mail to the Govenator this morning about the testing requirements of this stupid state.

I also called TC and they are TRYING to work within the system to get them to be reasonable but as of now the state wants them to submit for testing a sample of every style, caliber, barrel length etc of the Encore. In other words, hundreds of guns at a huge fee for each test. What a joke.

Just another form of gun control these idiot democrats have come up with.

I put all this in my letter to Arnold and hope it does something, anything to help.

Thomas Krupinski · « **Reply #10 on:** February 18, 2005, 01:26:33 PM »

Now that's causing another problem for us here in Arizona. Our housing prices are going through the roof as Californians are moving here and buying overpriced property that seems reasonable by California prices, but raising the prices here.

Tad Houston · « **Reply #11 on:** February 18, 2005, 02:18:38 PM »

Why cant T/C just sell the handgun in one caliber only, and leave the changes up to the consumer? Sell the G2 in 22lr only- everyone needs that barrel anyway, right? Then it would be out of their hands. :roll:

handirifle · « **Reply #12 on:** February 18, 2005, 04:05:08 PM »

Quote from: Thomas Krupinski

Now that's causing another problem for us here in Arizona. Our housing prices are going through the roof as Californians are moving here and buying overpriced property that seems reasonable by California prices, but raising the prices here.

Sorry, about that, but you are right. Lots of states feel that way. That's why if I ever do move out of state, I'll tell everyone I'm from Ohio :grin: . (cause I am)

Tad, that's probably what they'll end up doing, if anything at all. Time will tell.

nfmMike · « **Reply #13 on:** March 02, 2005, 08:03:57 AM »

Quote from: Tad Houston

Why cant T/C just sell the handgun in one caliber only, and leave the changes up to the consumer? Sell the G2 in 22lr only- everyone needs that barrel anyway, right? Then it would be out of their hands. :roll:

There must be a Ca. rule against that, it's too perfect of an idea.