Author Topic: Marlin 336C: 35 Remington (Read 16869 times)

squirrel_hunter6 · « **on:** February 17, 2005, 07:11:55 AM »

I was thinking that for my next gun I would like to get a lever action rifle. I wanted to get something a little different than the 30-30 so I thought that I may pick up a 35 Rem.

I have done some research on the internet and have read that it will take everything from deer to moose with 200gr Core-Locts. This ammo is probably what I would use because I don't reload and I can get them locally at Wal-Mart. If the Core-Locts will take a moose, will they expand on something the size of a small Alabama Whitetail?

What are your thoughts on this rifle and caliber? Any other recommendations on factory ammo?

How accurate can I expect to be with the factory iron sights? I like to use scopes but I think that I might try it with iron sights for a while and see how I like them.

Thanks for your advice.

Graybeard · « **Reply #1 on:** February 17, 2005, 07:33:11 AM »

You better betcha. They slam those Bama white tails with authority. The old .35 Remington is one of those rounds that just seems to kill all out of proportion to it's paper ballisitics. I have two of them. You can't go wrong with it.

McMarlin · « **Reply #2 on:** February 18, 2005, 08:32:11 AM »

I would recommend the 180's or 150's for deer if you can find them. Thats if you notice they shoot any better on paper than the 200's

big medicine · « **Reply #3 on:** February 18, 2005, 05:58:11 PM »

The 35 Rem doesnt get much press in the gun rags....but they dont know much! It is one deer killing round. Last year I shot a deer at about 200 yards with mine. She fell on the spot. I like the 200 gr RN. I have found they shoot much better out of my rifle. You cant go wrong with a 35 Rem

Lloyd Smale · « **Reply #4 on:** February 18, 2005, 11:53:08 PM »

Im with Bill those 200 corelocks will kill just about anything you stick them into properly. Its probably one of the most underated rounds in existance.

Quote from: Graybeard

You better betcha. They slam those Bama white tails with authority. The old .35 Remington is one of those rounds that just seems to kill all out of proportion to it's paper ballisitics. I have two of them. You can't go wrong with it.

BrushBuster · « **Reply #5 on:** February 25, 2005, 05:37:56 AM »

Squirrel_hunter6
I'm with you on not slapping a scope on that Marlin. Over the years of hunting with the Marlin 336RC I came to the conclusion that one of the things I really liked about this rifle for hunting in close cover was it's quickness on target and availability under all conditions.

My Lyman#57 aperture sight (steel) has served me flawlessly and I hunt with it at full aperture. It must be accepted that your not going to get 1 MOA accuracy with iron sights but for practical hunting purposes I never felt handicapped. If you should decide to scope-mount it later, the aperture sight slips off easily and provides a back-up when the scope fogs at the last moment

My experience with bullets for the .35 Rem. has been with the 200 grain Core-Lokt, Federal Hi-Shok, and Super X Power Point. I've heard of great results on deer with the lighter bullets, and there might be an accuracy edge with them. Everything died so quickly when I shot them with the 200 grain bullets I never had reason to experiment!

It's a bit of a shame that your not into handloading as the .35 Rem. cartridge can be improved as a moose-elk load, and there's some fine cast bullets available for it. In short, I think you can't go wrong with this combination of rifle and cartridge for game in close quarters.

dogngun · « **Reply #6 on:** March 25, 2005, 02:09:23 AM »

Learn to shoot that 336 with the factory sights. THe Marlin is a real pleasure to shoot offhand, a great fast pointing hunting rifle. Offhand at 50 yards, the accuracy of this rifle is unbelievable.

The .35 Rem is almost 100 years old, and it's still around because it deserves to be.

This is a classic rifle/cartridge combination, very popular here in Pennsylvania for deer and bear hunting in the woods.

Enjoy it.

Mark

dawei · « **Reply #7 on:** March 25, 2005, 04:11:52 AM »

GB has it right; it drops game all out of proportion to it's paper ballistics. Here in the WESTERN WASHINGTON you see 3 kinds of rifle hunters: Young guys just starting out, often (16-30 year olds); kids to me. They are usually armed with standard fare in rifles; 30/06, 270, 308 and the like. :grin: Secondly you see what I & my friends call "The YAYHOOS" (typically 30 & 40 year olds). Those guys have more $$ than sense. They are almost always armed with the latest in Techno Gadgets; GPS, Scent Suits, etc. Their rifles have scopes in the $1000 range and about 2 ft long. Fancy rifles in the latest, gun magazine calibers; WSSM, REMUL, etc. These guys could find their butt without directions.

The last group (50+ year olds) carry what they refer to as "Thumpers": 45/70, 444, 35's, 32 & 30/30. :twisted: :eek: These guys don't just hunt; they FILL THEIR TAGS! I met a guy a few seasons back elk hunting. He had to be 80 if he was a day. His gun was a peep sighted 35 Remington Mdl 8. Only rifle he ever owned. He couldn't remember how many deer, elk, & black bear he shot; but in 65+ years of hunting it was a bunch. In all those years of hunting he only need a 2nd shot three times; and that was for elk on the move. All the deer & bear fell to a single shot. Funny thing, all the animals travelled in the same direction when hit; not north, south, east, or west; just DOWN!

Piney · « **Reply #8 on:** March 25, 2005, 05:08:12 AM »

It is not such a bad thing to be included in the last group (50 +) Live and learn! Ditto on them Thumpers!

RayA · « **Reply #9 on:** March 25, 2005, 05:29:45 PM »

Hi Guys
Iam kinda new to this part of GB's forums iam useally hangin out in the trappers forum but had to stop in and check this marlin forum out. Ive been useing a 336SC for several yr's it loves the 200 gr SP's doesnt mater if its a factory load or one of my own creations. I shoot alot of 150 gr and 180 gr in my continder but stick with the 200 in the rifle.Its in need of repair but it keeps puttin the meat in the freezer and putting one bullet thru the same hole one after another. RayA

papajohn428 · « **Reply #10 on:** March 27, 2005, 08:06:48 AM »

You guys didn't think I'd let a thread on the 35 get by me, did ya? I'm older and slower, but I'm not dead! :grin:

My 35 is the apple of my eye, I wanted one for twenty years, but just couldn't justify it. Luckily, I sidestepped my logical mind when I saw a nice one in a local pawnshop, and talked them down to a ridiculously low price, because "it wasn't a 30-30". They thought it was some obsolete caliber, so they let me steal it, nearly unfired, for $200. Suckers!

Mine dotes on the Rem. Factory 200-grain Core-Lokts, but I've been playing with handloads for a year, and finally found THE ONE. 50-yard groups show five shots under 3/4 of an inch, still waiting for good weather to try it at 100. Mine likes a stiff dose of Varget and the Speer 180 Flatpoint, YMMV, but you can hardly go wrong with the 200 Core-Lokt in factory loads. Like that stupid old commercial used to say, "Try It! You'll like it!"

Papajohn

blairstev · « **Reply #11 on:** March 28, 2005, 08:23:25 AM »

I was fortunate to pick one of these bad boys up at an estate auction, and wow, what fun. In my opinion they are fun, accurate for what they are, and deliver a deadly blow to virtually all North American Game. First time I used it I shot an eight point white tail, and 419lb hog on the same trip, all with my nice light weight little Marlin lever action. I get a kick out of people who aren't familiar with them, they are so small, light, and fun looking, that their power and dropping power is usually over looked.

I Love mine, and in fact am buying the 45-70 now for more hog and bear fun.

1911crazy · « **Reply #12 on:** March 28, 2005, 01:17:50 PM »

Ditto on the older hunters using the 35 Remington !!!!!! My Uncle and my older brother used the 35 remington for many years. I think the 35 remington is an unsung hero for sure and an over lookedcaliber too by many new hunters. With the 30-30 being the most used caliber for deer and blackbear among the older hunters I think the 35 Remington is second with the 30-06 being third and the 308win being forth remember its the older hunters were talking about. Every old hunter I meet has a 30-30 or a 35 remington thats a fact. I have a 35 remington too it belonged to my older brother who passed on and were going to use it too.(my son will) BigBill

McMarlin · « **Reply #13 on:** April 05, 2005, 03:49:34 PM »

Don't worry, not only old farts know what fury a 35 Rem can bring.

mr.frosty · « **Reply #14 on:** April 05, 2005, 03:57:58 PM »

I can say that this in the middle fart has a fondness for the 35 and not just the bama whitetails but these ne tenn have been taken with the 35.
my dad has one thats nearly older than me and its still reliable as ever.

Harry Snippe · « **Reply #15 on:** April 06, 2005, 05:07:58 AM »

Not too many 35's left in the woods here in Central Ontario Canada.
The 30/30's are still strong and I still see a few M1's
One hunter I know is in his late seventies and has carried a 303 Savage since the late thirties. He does not shoot much, just a deer / moose that year and puts the gun away. The preseason might consist of one shot , just to make sure eveything is still were it needs to be. A box of shells then lasts for a long time. Two years ago I found him a box of shells made by winchester . This box will probably last him .

The down side of the Winchesters and Marlins is , that when you are going short drives over small pockets of bush , you need to lever the shells out when you re on the move . A rifle with a clip then is more suited.
hence the Marlins have almost disappeared and so have the 35 Remington cartridges gone from the selves.
I hunted with the bolt action rifle most of my life , but decided to go with the lever , since the cover seems to be getting thicker and there is a need for a quick snap shot. I find a quick handling lever is now more suited for the job than the bolt action rifle used for the longer shots.
Thats when I started with the 35 Remington Marlin RC.

Range Finder · « **Reply #16 on:** April 09, 2005, 08:48:11 AM »

Riflemen:

I too am very fond of the good old .35 Remington. Actually I've used one off and on for over 3 decades and have never been let down. If you keep her within her limitations as well as yours she'll always get the job done.

In his book THE HUNTING RIFLE, Jack O'Connor says, "if I were going into hock for a new brush rifle I think I'd acquire a Marlin lever-action or a Remington pump in the .35 Remington cartridge...". Yes, O'Connor appreciated the effective killing power of this old cartridge.

I'm venturing into reloading with my 35 and if I get drawn for a moose permit I'm going to use my 35. I will be working up some loads using 220 gr speer bullets. The factory loads do get it done though and to me that's what it's all about. In these days of magnums, short magnums and short fat magnums, the old reliable 35 is often - in fact too often - overlooked because of all the marketing-hype being spread all over. Many hunters today do not know the joy of carrying a fine lever-action in a caliber that will kill just about anything you meet, without kicking your shoulder off and blowing your ear drums out, and by the way, leaving a little meat that's not blood-shot.

Long live the .35 Remington! :-)

Range Finder

JJ79 · « **Reply #17 on:** May 06, 2005, 05:53:12 AM »

gosh, hearing you guys talk about the .35 is making me want to trade my 30-30!!!! maybe I'll just get the .35 to keep it company...

mavrick10_2000 · « **Reply #18 on:** May 10, 2005, 10:26:36 AM »

I picked up a used Marlin 336 in .35 Rem a few weeks back for $200. I can't get enough of shooting it. Has an older tasco fixed 4x on it with the see thru mounts, but still this thing shoots great groups at 100 yards. I'll probably replace the glass with something more reliable in the near future and put this compact scope on my Ruger Single Six ;-)

Of course I picked up some speer 180 gr FN's and bought some 200 gr corelokts, dies and two boxes of Fed Classic 200 gr hi shoks, and another 50 pieces of new Win Brass and......hahahah.

I love this rifle because it brings back the memories of when I grew up and my dad and I hunting the woods of North Eastern PA where I grew up. I dropped everything in it's tracks with one shot including a Charlois calf that escaped the pen before butchering. Of course I saw it feeding in a field next to the barn with the biggest buck I've ever seen in my life in May. As far as I know that buck went on to sow it's seed for many more years. That was a tough call for a 16 year old at the time.

Doe Dumper · « **Reply #19 on:** May 12, 2005, 07:52:37 PM »

Never been around a .35 but always heard good about em. Never seen so many good reports on a caliber with not even one dissenting post. I always figured like was previously said here..if its lasted 100 years its gotta be pretty good.

NYH1 · « **Reply #20 on:** August 06, 2005, 05:57:04 AM »

I love my 35 Rem. Its a Marlin model 336CS. I have a Leupold VX-II 2-7x33mm Shotgun scope on it. Now the 2-7x33mm shotgun scope is a VX-I series, glad I bought mine when they were the VX-II series. I went with the "shotgun scope" as apposed to the "rifle scope" because the the shotgun scope is parallax free at 75-yards instead of parallax free at 150 yards like the rifle scope. I tried and tried and tried to use iron sights and then the Williams peep sight set up. I just couldn't shoot it as well as I liked so I put the scope on it.

I use this rifle as my brush/woods (under 100 yards) rifle. I wouldn't use it on anything but deer. The main reason why....I also have a 444 Marlin. I bought the 444 Marlin for black bear and wild boar hunting, I haven't done either YET !

If your going to hunt whitetail deer and you keep the range under 125 yards or so, you'll be hard pressed to find a more effective cartridge then the 35 Rem.! :grin:

35Rem · « **Reply #21 on:** August 06, 2005, 11:25:32 AM »

The 35 Remington works great on those Alabama Whitetails. I own a Remington Model 8 Auto, Remington Model 141 Pump, and a Marlin 336CS.
The 200 gr bullet makes the 35 what it is. That big round nose bullet really stomps critters. Best of all, Walmart stocks the ammo. If you can find a good used one, go for it. You won't be dissapointed. Nothing wrong with a new one, either, except the price...

By the way, the first trip to the range with the Marlin resulted in a 1.25" 3 shot group with Iron Sights. I was pleased. That Marlin will shoot.

Sigh...If only they would make one with a longer barrel (24") again...

Range Finder · « **Reply #22 on:** August 06, 2005, 01:56:10 PM »

Riflemen:

For some top-shelf info on performance of the .35 Remington in both factory loads as well as handloads go to the Marlin Owner's Forum at www.marlinowners.com. Go to the 336 forum and do a search by author for 35remington. Then check out his research articles: Part 1of 2,.35 Rem Factory Load Performance. Also, Part II .35 Rem Bullet Performance Part II - Handloads. These reports are supported by some excellent photos and it goes to show how effective the .35 Rem is. Great reading!

GOOD SHOOTING TO ALL! :grin:

Range Finder

nite owl · « **Reply #23 on:** August 13, 2005, 07:17:52 PM »

I've killed more deer with my dad's 35 and later my own 35 than any other gun I own. My dad's is older than I am. My brother used it long before I was around. His has open sights and I have a scope on mine.

I was watching a gun show today on either OLN or The Outdoorchannel and Bryce Townsley was talking about the 35 and how much he liked it as well. I was surprised as you normally don't see much press given to the 35.

I just bought a used 30-30 for my son but plan on giving him my 35 when I can no longer shoot it.

jbadams66 · « **Reply #24 on:** August 13, 2005, 09:00:30 PM »

Saw the show myself and am glad to see the .35 rem get a little attention.

I just got my .35 a few months ago but it has been great (now that I have it back from the factory). Got into reloading for it and it is a great shooting gun.

John C-S · « **Reply #25 on:** August 25, 2005, 05:54:08 PM »

After posting awhile ago. Great topic. Very nice to see others out there behind the 35 Remington.

Savage .250 · « **Reply #26 on:** August 26, 2005, 04:08:52 AM »

A Marlin in .35 cal is a compact, hard shooting, fun gun to pack around all day in the woods. Plus it`s not bad at all on the "re-coil" side as well.
I`ve got an old core-lokt bullet that i retrieved from a buck years ago and it`s almost a perfect....mushroom. Speaks well for the shell as well as the gun.
Great woods gun............. IMHO.

" The best part of the hunt is not the harvest but in the experience."

John C-S · « **Reply #27 on:** August 29, 2005, 05:59:18 PM »

Between a 30-30 336 or 35 Rem I ended up getting the latter as the end of my deliberations between the two. The 35 has bullet weight worthy of moose and black bear. Obviously elk as well at most range inside of woods where bears might reside and ruin your day. Stay with the 200 grainers if you want the 35 by your side. Nothing in North America would be a meaningful threat to you. The 35 is a heavy at 2K fps. Listen to all the posts on the 35. I totally agree.

service rifleman1 · « **Reply #28 on:** September 27, 2005, 11:14:46 AM »

Does anyone use the Winchester round anymore these days? Regards

cocojo · « **Reply #29 on:** September 29, 2005, 03:51:42 PM »

I put on a new Bushnell Trophy 1.75x5x32 on my 35 Marlin today. My son has a scope like this on his 30-30 Marlin and I liked it more than my Leupold 2x7x32. The Leupold seems out of focus and hazy for me all the time, getting old. I put the Bushnell on my Marlin 35 and shot a one inch group at 100 yards, with a heavy wind, with Remington factory CoreLok 200 grain bullets. I tried the Winchester 35 loads and my gun shot awfull with them. My Marlin loves the Remingtons and this scope is wide, clear, smaller and adjustable for my eye sight. Go figure a cheaper scope and I like it a lot more.