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Offline Totin'a10

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« on: March 18, 2005, 06:51:25 AM »
High on my list of needs is a semi-auto rifle in .308. I would appreciate any first hand experiences/suggestions. Price may be a factor but feel free to include the high-end stuff, thanks. Also, is the .308 the same as 7.62x 39? Thanks again for your patience and guidence. :?
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« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2005, 08:38:16 AM »
The Browning BAR is a very good rifle.

The 308 and the 7.62x 39 are 2 different rounds.
Here is a little on the 7.62X39. http://www.chuckhawks.com/7-62soviet.htm
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« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2005, 10:10:23 AM »
Just curious, why do you need a semi-auto?
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« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2005, 11:42:30 AM »
You need a auttermatic so you can spray and pray.  aka, laying down a field of fire.   :grin:

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« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2005, 12:49:57 PM »
Totin'a10, for hunting, like Redhawk1 said, the Browining is very good. The Remington will do for the average once a year hunter though. If you are not hunting, then the M1-A is gonna be hard to beat.
As far as beemanbeme's comment, well, I disagree. The auto is a first rate woods or brush gun for deer. I do alot of deer hunting with a semi-auto shotgun. In the woods, you are bound to slam a sapling or a branch once in a while. Many times, a missed deer will freeze, looking for where the shot came from, giving you an easy second shot with the auto. But working the action on a bolt, lever, or pump, will give your location away. Now your second shot will be a running shot, or no shot at all. So the auto can actually be better and safer in a mature hunters hands. If you don't need the acuraccy of a bolt, the auto makes alot of sense.(where legal). Sorry for the rant, auto's have been around for about 100 years now, and still are not accepted as a legitimate hunting weapon by some. But an antiquated, inaccurate lever gun that wounds as many deer as it kills in the hands of the inexperienced "hunters" using it is O.K.
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« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2005, 03:50:20 PM »
Quote from: beemanbeme
You need a auttermatic so you can spray and pray.  aka, laying down a field of fire.   :grin:


Some people just like the idea of a quick follow up shot, without having to cycle a bolt or work a lever action.  :-)
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« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2005, 03:30:18 AM »
A hunting buddy of mine has a Browning BAR in 30-06. It has never failed to cycle reloads that have been full length sized. He's also getting 1" groups out of it.
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« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2006, 04:39:26 PM »
I have a Remington 7400 in .308 caliber and in my opinion,I think the damm thing sucks.I think its to much gun for that caliber. 8)
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« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2006, 05:21:38 PM »
I'm sure they've fixed the problem with the newer rifles, but for years my dad hunted with a Remington 742 in .30-06.  He got to the point that he quit loading a magazine in it, as 60-70% of the time the case would stick and the bolt would rip the head off the brass.  It essentially became a semi-auto single shot.  He killed many deer with it over about a 15 year span, but after I bought a Savage 110 .30-06 he was constantly borrowing the Savage :lol: (we chipped together and got him a Ruger 77Mk2 in .270Win for Christmas, so I finally can get my gun back :)).  He still has the 742 but doesn't shoot it.

A few weeks ago, a friend of mine at work bought a 742 that exhibits the same EXACT problem.  Personally, if you need a semi-auto, I'd go with the Browning.  

Also, you might take a look at the Benelli R1.  It's availab in .308 Win.  I have no experience with their rifles, but I have shot their shotguns pretty extensively, and I'd trust just about anything they make :lol:.  It is a little pricey though (MSRP $1200).

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« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2006, 05:05:14 PM »
Browning Bar and a 308 Win beats a 7.62x39 :wink:

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« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2006, 06:39:32 PM »
Well if you are not going to hump it to far you can't go wrong with a DPMS Panther LR, 24 inch bull barrel, topped with a 10x scope makes for lot's of 300 yard fun.  You better have a progressive press to feed it though.  Easy to go though 200 rounds in an afternoon.  

Hunting, a buddy of mine uses an Remington 740 in .06 with a Weaver 4x scope and has taken alot of game, look over the 7400 with a 4x scope.  If you reload I would suggest IMR 4895 which works great in his rifle and always fully resize the brass.

Let us know what you get and how it shoots
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« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2006, 07:36:39 AM »
You gotta watch out for that 7.62, and that surplus ammo... we go through a case of 1000 in an afternoon sometimes... gets a little expensive.... way too much fun!!   :-D
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