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Offline Questor

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Reloading error compounded by shooting error. Take note.
« on: March 21, 2005, 07:35:38 AM »
I did a bonehead thing while loading a small batch of 45ACP last Friday. I was fooling around with OAL adjustments with my progressive press and stupidly advanced the press without charging one of the cases with powder. When the gun went off on that round I was concentrating pretty good and did get some recoil, and I didn't notice anything wrong.  I know we're supposed to hear or feel something odd, but I didn't feel or hear it.

Anyway, the primer went off without powder to burn and the bullet was lodged in the barrel. I thought it was a failure to feed because of bad brass and tried to chamber the next round. Fortunately the case of the discharged round was very sooty and that tipped me off to a problem. I checked the bore and removed the bullet with the dowel I keep in my shooting box.

The root cause of this is that I had allowed myself to be distracted by the press adjustments I was making. This could, at least, have cost me a good gun had I not heeded the warning of the soot.  I had seen the sooty cases when, at an earlier date, had deliberately loaded some cartridges without powder just to see what would happen.  

This was during a match and others were shooting, so perhaps the odd sound was obscured by other fire.  When I shoot I really don't feel recoil, I just see the dot go off the target, and I recover.  The primer was enough to partially cycle the action, so my dot moved about as I expected.

By the way, in the 1911 I've found that soft swaged bullets will leave the barrel when there is no powder charge, and hard cast bullets (like common commercial bullets), will be lodged in the bore.
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« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2005, 07:53:28 AM »
Thanks for the heads up, being new at this handloading, I can use all the advise that's to be had!!
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« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2005, 09:41:59 AM »
Just goes to show that no matter how much you have reloaded, things can happen. Glad you caught it and did not wreck your gun or you. When I reload after the first one I do a visual of the powder level in the case and check every one so that way I can see if I missed one or by any chance I double charged if I am using smaller amounts of powder. I load for rifles only at this point with the exception of my 308 Encore which you might say it is for a rifle as I load it the same. Yea it may be slower and a extra step to look at all the cases before I seat the bullet but I know that way I should not have any supprises. Jim
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« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2005, 11:06:55 AM »
Good catch Questor, I am sure it would not of been a good thing if you were not paying attention.  I am very cautious when it comes to reloading.  :D It only takes one mistake and you either blow up a gun or worse, your hand.  :eek:
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« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2005, 02:45:02 PM »
Good job done. we could all learn from your presence of mind and attention to detail. I personally salute you, and strive to pay as much attention. Thank you for sharing this with us....    Marty

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« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2005, 03:17:51 PM »
this is one reason Ido not have or use a progressive press. Some (many) years ago a shooting buddy bought a Dillon and loaded a LOT of .45 auto. Some how he missed charging a round with enough powder. He used the ammo in a thompson sub machine gun. The barrel was damaged and so was his pride!No blood was spilled in this case either!

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« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2005, 03:19:41 PM »
I was very much at fault and this is simply a case of good luck.  My message is that I really screwed up and was lucky that no harm was done.

Please learn from my stupidity and say to yourself "There but for the grace of God go I."

I consider myself a careful reloader, I never rush, I am aware of the dangers of mistakes. And yet I let one get past me and it could have cost me dearly.
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« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2005, 03:23:08 PM »
jhalcott:

The problem was not with the press. The powder dispensing mechanism of the Dillon is very reliable. This was a case of operator error. I had taken my mind off the process and my eye off the powder.  I normally sit at a tall stool that permits me to see the powder as the case advances from the powder station to the bullet seating station.
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« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2005, 04:29:20 PM »
Thanks for the heads up.
I sure can relate to distractions as in the not two distant past my wife came to the door of the loading room to talk just a minuet while I was charging powder. Alas, when I shined my light over the completed cases there was two empty's!. Could have just as easily been two with dble charges. :eek:

At another time before this my son had come to the door to talk when I was priming cases. Well guess what? when I was done there was four primers too many in the autoprime. I knew that they didnt start packaging them 104 to the box so I had to hunt down the unprimed cases. Was kinda like the old pea under the shell game. :)

I have learned to stop all operations when I have these imprompto visitors so that I can give the reloading my full concentration.

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« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2005, 11:22:35 PM »
buddy just lunched the barrel on his kimber gold match because of the same thing. your lucky you caught it.
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