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Compare the old 45-70's to the new BC
« on: March 23, 2005, 03:25:10 PM »
Did the old break open 45-70's eject their brass or did they just extract them.

How close is the current BC in 45-70 to the originals?

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« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2005, 03:46:39 PM »
The .204 Ruger which was released last fall was the first of any H&R rifles to have a factory extractor, up until then they were all ejectors, as far as I know. I've got an old H&R shotgun, built in the '20s, has an ejector just like those up until now have.
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« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2005, 05:09:11 PM »
If by the originals you mean the Wesson and Harrington Civil War era "tip up" rifles, the similarity is they fold in the middle and have holes in the barrels. That's about it.

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« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2005, 07:59:08 AM »
Quote from: E.D. Hill
If by the originals you mean the Wesson and Harrington Civil War era "tip up" rifles, the similarity is they fold in the middle and have holes in the barrels. That's about it.

E.D.


Did they "eject" their shells?

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« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2005, 09:26:29 AM »
Don't know about the H$R's of old but I don't think many of the old breech loaders ejected the case.  It was a matter of an extractor and if it was worked quickly it could pop it out pretty fast but otherwise no.

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« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2005, 05:28:10 PM »
Here is a link to some great pictures of a Frank Wesson tip up. The sales info says extractor.
http://www.trackofthewolf.com/categories/partDetail.aspx?catId=12&subId=79&styleId=273&partNum=AAA-676

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