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Offline Woodbutcher

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« Reply #30 on: March 30, 2005, 02:35:09 PM »
Hey GB, please tell me where to read and learn. I'm serious!
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« Reply #31 on: March 30, 2005, 03:49:56 PM »
Yea Bill give us some facts maybe we should all switch to the GOA no matter what the group we still need some one in Washington fighting the gun grabbers. I know the real strict pro gun folks think the NRA sells us out and that that GOA is the way to go others think they are too strict and the NRA is the right choice. I do not mind paying some dues if the cause is right and I know that some say the NRA has sold us down the drain so I really would like to see some facts on it. In fact it would be nice before the weekend as a local sports show is coming up and if what Bill says is true I would like some ammo to tell them about at the local show. Jim
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Offline Graybeard

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« Reply #32 on: March 30, 2005, 04:28:50 PM »
GOA and Jews for Firearms Preservation are the places to put your money if you want it to be spent to help not hurt your rights. It's all too long for me to go into it again here. If you'll search you might find where I've typed long versions many times on the various forums.

See Neal Knox's website, he has the info there on a permanent basis. Neal died but his family are keeping up the fight. Yes Wes I'll be happy to sit down and talk about it in June. But in the mean time anyone can go to the Neal Knox site and read. Do a Google search and you should find it. There are also several links there to other sites that tell the truth about the NRA.


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« Reply #33 on: March 30, 2005, 07:03:53 PM »
I guess I will have to join GOA. Jim
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« Reply #34 on: March 30, 2005, 11:48:09 PM »
GB I never seen anything bad about the NRA on his web site.

I don't think they are to against the NRA or they wouldnt link the NRA site.

Would you post a link or copy past some info.

I'm not member of the NRA. But do donate to the Second Amendment Foundation.

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Offline Mac11700

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« Reply #35 on: March 31, 2005, 05:49:15 AM »
There's only a couple of the magazines I subsribe to anymore...these still have some good articles in them that I cut out and save...and the funny thing is...I used to hate how many advertisements were in them......now I look forwrd to browsing over them and seeing what's new on the market...and most of the articles I no-longer read or pay attention too.. :)

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« Reply #36 on: May 03, 2005, 07:59:59 PM »
Dropped my NRA membership in 2001 due to the crap that was going on..that was after 18 years in. I quit readin the rags when Gene Hill died.

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« Reply #37 on: May 05, 2005, 07:39:47 AM »
To get back on topic, if Ka90tm's read of the article is correct, I agree.  There are "generic" loads which any rifle of a particular calibre should shoot well.  The load may not be the best selection of bullet and powder for YOUR rifle but the load should shoot to reasonable parameters.  I have posted before that if your buy a 30-06 and load 57grs of 4350 behind any good 165gr bullet, if it will not shoot well, you're better off selling the rifle rather than wasting a lot of time fooling with it.  
It has been my experience that changing primers for example isn't gonna suddenly change a spray and pray shooter into a tack driver.
That said, I do agree with the general sentimence of the posters that reading the articles by the "gun experts" in the magizines for anything other than amusement is a waste of time.  
Also, you must remember that the magz are fighting for their lives against the info that is available on the net.  Anything that they can do to trash the net info while getting you to pay 4 or 5 bucks for a couple of 'puter generated paragraphs run thru a spell check and padded out with a bunch of computer generated graphs and charts that is "full of sound and fury" signifying nothing, they are gonna do.

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« Reply #38 on: May 05, 2005, 08:01:11 AM »
Carmichael's problem is takin' over from a legend. Nothin' you do is good enough. He has wandered down pathways I didn't choose to follow and his shameless acceptance of the credit for the .260 Remington really soured me. But havin' some standard loads ain't so far out of my experience, chasin' that magic combination of bullet/powder/case/primer might work sometimes, but bullet seating depth is my solution and it works for me.  :D
Bold talk from a one eyed fat man.

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« Reply #39 on: May 05, 2005, 05:27:29 PM »
the only magazines i read with any regualrity is Fur-Fish-Game and Rifle. i also just recently dixcovered the backwoodsman, which is really neat and different from anything i've read before. i found with field and stream and others they seemed like a mouth piece for the big companys. the impression i got from a lot of there gun writers was if it isn't brand new, lightweight,  didn't have a cartridge with "magnum" in the name and  wasn't sporting high priced German optics, it's garbage. i noticed others like to slam the older rounds like .30-30 Win, .30-40 Krag, .303 British and others, but those are used a lot more then any of the newer guns/cartridges, and how many deer are gonna be killed at 600 yards and require enough power to knock down a bull African elephant? i will agree with what soem one else said about John Barness. i loved an article he wrote for Rifle about designing rifle scopes. he said that all optics designers should find an old, all steel Weaver K4 and base their design on that. i've tried a number of rifle scopes but only owned 2. the very same old school K4 previously mentioned mounted on a P&H .303, and a B4 on my .22. are they high tech and pretty? not really, but they always held zero, could take a beating and where deadly accurate.i wondered of topic a bit, but it seems to me that many of the "big name" magazines and writers are nothing more then tools of the manufacteurs. i'm sure one or two writers are probably lurking on this forum, and i mean no offence to them, but i think a lot of them are full of baloney.
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