.50AE

[L-Roy]

Hello,
Anyone shooting a large revolver in .50AE?  I have one in a large auto and would like to have one in a large single action.

Anyone maker better than the others?
Thanks,

[Lloyd Smale]

I beleive Freedom Arms is the only one doing factory guns and you sure wont do any better then one of them.

[BER007]

Fa made factory revolver in .50 AE, I can tell you more after end of April, when I'll get mine.

You can find custom Ruger at Gary Reeder, Hamilton Bowen and special order at David Clements.

These revolvers (5 shots) are able to push a 355 gr or havier bullet over 1550 fps.

With the new S&W .500 Mag, more and more bullets (jacketed and mold) will be aivalable.

[Fiveshooter]

You should have no problem reaching 1550 to 1600 fps from the FA .50 AE using the 380 gr. BRP hard cast bullets. I have a premier grade with 7.5" barrel and was quite impressed with the power potential of this round in a strong revolver. I never planned on owning a .50 AE revolver but found a very good deal on the one I bought.  Looking back on the deal I am very glad I bought the .50 AE.

Best Regards,
                    Billy

[Henry Bowman]

Hello L-Roy,
tell us about your autoloading .50ae!
I have a 4 3/4 Freedom in .50ae I might swap for another LAR in .50ae!!??

[JohnK]

My bet is he has a Desert Eagle 50 AE, not a Grizz which would limit him to those dastardly jacketed bullets. Am I right L-Roy?

Fiveshooter do you have any problems with bullets pulling under recoil? I've always heard that since the 50 AE headspaced on the casemouth a good roll crimp couldn't be applied so max loads caused bullets to pull.  A 380 at 1,600 sure sounds like a max load to me. Whats the secret?  :grin:

[BER007]

My bet is he has a Desert Eagle 50 AE, not a Grizz which would limit him to those dastardly jacketed bullets. Am I right L-Roy?

Fiveshooter do you have any problems with bullets pulling under recoil? I've always heard that since the 50 AE headspaced on the casemouth a good roll crimp couldn't be applied so max loads caused bullets to pull.  A 380 at 1,600 sure sounds like a max load to me. Whats the secret?  :grin:

I'll test out my Desert Eagle a 325 gr bullet with gas check, this bullet is designed by CBE firm from Australia. The bullet style is the same as Speer 325 gr in this caliber. I think next month I'll be able to post some results of my modest tests.

I have also lots of testing with my coming FA in .50 AE 7.5"
As for my Desert eagle i'll use a 4 dies set with the last one a custom  crimp die made by RCBS custom shop.

[Fiveshooter]

My bet is he has a Desert Eagle 50 AE, not a Grizz which would limit him to those dastardly jacketed bullets. Am I right L-Roy?

Fiveshooter do you have any problems with bullets pulling under recoil? I've always heard that since the 50 AE headspaced on the casemouth a good roll crimp couldn't be applied so max loads caused bullets to pull.  A 380 at 1,600 sure sounds like a max load to me. Whats the secret?  :grin:

Hi John,

 The 380 gr. BRP bullets are made of pure linotype and are very hard. I can honestly say that I have not had any bullet pull or "creep" problems with cast bullets in this gun. I have however had problems with bullet pull experimenting with seating the Speer 325 gr. JHP too shallow into the case to make room for more powder.
 In this gun a 380 gr. bullet at 1600 fps is without any doubt a max load for me. I have no fear of blowing the gun at this level but the "fun" potential starts to leave at about 1500 fps.
 At present I am quite content to load this bullet at 1450 fps which is a lot easier for me to manage.
 I have also read reports of the entire cartridge being forced so far forward from heavy recoil that misfires occur because the firing pin fails to contact the primer. I have never experienced this myself with any load. BTW if you check the demesions on a .50 AE case you will see that it is actually tapered to some degree.
 The chambers on my FA are also very tight and all five of the chamber throats measure at .500" exactly.
 I size all my cast bullets for this gun to .500" and get good accuracy. A bullet sized to .501" that has any bearing band on the outside of the case will not chamber in my gun.
 I use a taper crimp and for what it is worth I also believe that one of the biggest causes of bullet creep is insufficent tension of the sized case neck on the bullet.
 I have in the past had bullet creep problems with .454 Casull and no amount of roll crimp would correct it. I switched to a tighter sizing die and was able to get away with a much lighter crimp and no more bullet creep problem at any level I have loaded to.
 I hope to have a bullet mold for the .50 AE in the near future that casts a LBT LFN style bullet at slightly over 400 grs. The bullet will have a longer crimp to nose than the 380 gr. but I will keep the crimp to base the same so as not to take away from the powder capacity. I will report back after I get the mold and have a chance to experiment with it.
 Also even though I use a taper crimp all the cast bullet molds I have for the .50 AE have a crimp groove as does the 380 gr. LFN that BRP sells.

  Best Regards,
                      Billy

[JohnK]

Thanks fiveshooter.

I also believe that one of the biggest causes of bullet creep is insufficent tension of the sized case neck on the bullet.
I have in the past had bullet creep problems with .454 Casull and no amount of roll crimp would correct it. I switched to a tighter sizing die and was able to get away with a much lighter crimp and no more bullet creep problem at any level I have loaded to.

I had a similar experience with heavy 45 Colt loads. The 45 Colt size die I had simply didn't size the case down enough to hold the bullets, roll crimping until the bullet was being crushed didn't help. I switched to a 45 ACP size die, backed the crimp way off and haven't had a problem since.

I wonder how many of the early reports of bullet creep problems were due to insufficient case tension.

[1badmagnum]

please dont even try lead bullets in a desert eagle,you'll fowl up the gas system.
My 50 ae is a blast to shoot,although the rounds are twice as expensive to handload than my 454 casull,45 long colt,440 corbon,and 44 magnum rounds.
I use military surplus 45 acp bullets for my 454, and 45 long colt rounds and speer 240 grain jhp's in my 44 magnum,these run about 10 cents a piece for bullets with a total cost of about 20 cents per round.
the 440 corbon also uses the 240 grain speer jhp's.
I would shoot the 50 ae much more if the bullets were cheaper.
I thought 50 ae,454,480 factory rounds were expensive,check out the 500 s&w,shesh!
$36 for 12 rounds?
does that come with a jar of vaseline??? :bye:

[BER007]

please dont even try lead bullets in a desert eagle,you'll fowl up the gas system.
My 50 ae is a blast to shoot,although the rounds are twice as expensive to handload than my 454 casull,45 long colt,440 corbon,and 44 magnum rounds.

A friend from MI has tried a gas checked bullet 435 gr caliber .500 , cast with Ballistic Cast mold. Alloy WW/Linotype, the velocity out his Desert Eagle was 1156 fps. ANY leads remained in his Desert Eagle.

In theory you can't shoot lead bullets in a gas operated pistol BUT if you have good alloy, gas check, a medium velocity and a hard lub... I guess you can. I'll tell you more later.

I don't claim I know all, just want to try it in my Desert Eagle, nothing more.