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I FOUND THE CHARGING PROBLEM WITH THE MEC PRESS
« on: February 12, 2003, 05:12:37 AM »
I found the problem why my MEC was missing powder charges. I went carefully through the installation directions, and step by step procedures, and then began going through the trouble shooting part of the directions... Everything was set just right. However, back when I installed the micrometer charge bar, I also installed the long, metal baffled drop tube that goes between the bottle and the top of the charge bar assembly... The Red Dot powder was hanging up in the restriction where the baffles are. After I took it out of the loop, I ran many, many cases through, and not only were the charges more consistent, not one charge was missed... Believe I've got her licked...
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« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2003, 06:24:39 AM »
IronKnees,

Now that was an interesting post.

This is exactly why I hang out on forums such as this one...you can always learn something.

Having said that, I also use the baffles on all my MEC loaders...however, I have pretty much standardized my powders to four: HI-SKOR 700X, PB, Unique and Blue Dot.  None of these have shown any metering problems at all, so it's got to be the granulation of the Red Dot.

Good thing to keep an eye on.  Thanks for the input, IronKnees.

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« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2003, 02:04:36 PM »
I'm not a fan of the metal baffle for the very reasons that Ironknees ran into.  It came "free" with my adjustable charge bar.  Rather than use the metal baffle, I use the Precision Plastics powder bottle that has a built in baffle.  The metal baffle is spring loaded on the bottom and put too much pressure on the rubber gasket.  That caused too much friction and the bar would hang up.  Even without the metal baffle, I've found the adjustable charge bars have to be used a bit to break them in.
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« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2003, 09:49:24 AM »
I am a beginner shotshell reloading person.  I have a MEC Sizemaster.  I purchased a universal charge bar because I wasn't getting consistent powder charges using the MEC inserts.  Still, the powder charge varies by as much as .5 grains.  I was told that, in the world of shotshell reloading, .5 grains isn't much, as long as the variation is withing the limits of the recipe I'm using.  Well, I've got it to where I throw several dummy charges to get the powder to settle in the bottle, and I get at least 2 or 3 consistent powder throws.  The shot charge is much more consistent.  Finally, one of the fellows in the club, who's been reloading much much longer than I have, told me to let the press do the reloading, and not to dwell too much on the minute variations.

So far, I pull the trigger and it goes "boom" and nothing has blown up.  I'm breaking between 65 and 75 which is pretty good for me (trap).  I'm using International Clays and 1 1/2 ozs of chilled shot.

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« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2003, 06:17:14 AM »
1 1/2 oz of shot may be a tad high.  In registered Trap, the max is 1 1/8 oz.   An interesting article I read indicates heavier shot charges might not increase your chances of breaking the bird.  The basic theory was the at least three pellets must strike the clay to break it, and that means your pattern needs to be fairly closely centered.  Outlying strays don't help since you don't have the density to get at least three hits.  Two things cause the pellets to scatter out of the pattern.  One, the shotcup does not contain all the shot, so the top layers rub against the barrel on their way out.  This deforms them, and they quickly leave the pattern.  The second reason was that the bottom layers get crushed by the inerita of the layers of shot on top of them, and they also leave the pattern.  Using a lighter shot charge reduces these two mechanisms, hence for the shot you do fire, percentage wise more are in the pattern.  That extra 3/8 to 1/2 oz of shot just uses more components, driving up your reloading costs, and also give more recoil for the shooter to contend with.  For Skeet, I've gone to 1 oz loads and have not seen any lost birds I would attribute to other than my pointing.  In Trap, I use 1 1/8 oz because the bird is at 35 yards away when the shot pattern gets up to it.
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« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2003, 09:28:40 AM »
Mr. Bob:

My mistake...I meant to say 1 1/8 ounces of shot, not 1 1/2 ounces.

Sorry about the confusion, and I appreciate your reply to my post.

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