Author Topic: What is Michael Schiavo Really Hiding? (Read 3335 times)

Patriot_1776 · « **on:** March 27, 2005, 10:01:51 AM »

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/3/26/73839.shtml

Hmmm. Seems to me he doesn't want an autopsy to discover anything "suspicious". Pretty strange. :?

-Patriot

jh45gun · « **Reply #1 on:** March 27, 2005, 11:53:14 AM »

That has been my contention all along He is hiding something. Some one posted before Fl law has automatic autopsy's but maybe that is not so if he can pull this crap. If I was tbe brother or the parents or one of the other family members I sure would push for one.

powderman · « **Reply #2 on:** March 27, 2005, 12:08:35 PM »

I've asked the same question for a long time. It's been apparent that he never wanted her to be able to talk. POWDERMAN. :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

Haywire Haywood · « **Reply #3 on:** March 27, 2005, 12:11:04 PM »

He probably just tired of all the accusations and suppositions from the far right and wants to just be done with it after 15 years. I don't blame him.

If he did agree to an autopsy, you'd probably say something like, "He's not satisfied with just killing her, now he wants her cut up too."

Ian

FWiedner · « **Reply #4 on:** March 27, 2005, 01:12:29 PM »

I'm of the opinion that people should just mind their own business,

The Schindlers have caused their daughter to suffer and defied her expressed wishes for long enough..

Let this poor woman die and find what peace she may.

Her husband has been persecuted for long enough in trying to keep his word and follow her instructions regarding her desire not to "live" like she has been forced to do.

powderman · « **Reply #5 on:** March 27, 2005, 03:58:19 PM »

In a few days she will be dead, then you guys will feel proud knowing that they did the right thing. I'd put a bullet in an animal before I'd starve it to death. I guess the husbands conscience will be clear then, he can say, I didn't kill her, I just allowed her to starve to death. Weight loss??? I wonder how much in the past 10 days. They keep her heavily sedated so they don't haveto look into her eyes. Shame on them. POWDERMAN. :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

jh45gun · « **Reply #6 on:** March 27, 2005, 05:45:25 PM »

Fwed and Heywood ever consider the fact that maybe he is being accused bacause there is a good reason for him to be? His actions are no way the ones of a loving caring husband. I wonder what his girlfriend and two kids of that union think of his latest performances? THis clown should get a oscar he is a better actor than some of the clowns in hollywood. Jim

Patriot_1776 · « **Reply #7 on:** March 27, 2005, 07:04:26 PM »

HH, FW,

For what its worth, please take the time to read what Michael Schiavo ORIGINALLY WAS THINKING before he got hooked up with some other woman (or two), and had two children with her (while still *AHEM* "married" to Terri, and loving and caring for her with all his heart, supposedly) and compare to what he is now.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7287950/

-Patriot

Haywire Haywood · « **Reply #8 on:** March 27, 2005, 09:49:54 PM »

I read it. No real surprise there, his accusers call him evil and his friends call him caring... you just have to pick sides. You have and I have.

Ian

Dali Llama · « **Reply #9 on:** March 28, 2005, 07:36:55 AM »

Quote from: Haywire Haywood

you just have to pick sides.

Yep, yer a rootin' for Terri, right, ask Dali Llama???

Haywire Haywood · « **Reply #10 on:** March 28, 2005, 08:34:15 AM »

Quote from: Dali Llama

Yep, yer a rootin' for Terri, right, ask Dali Llama???

Yep, sure am.. if I were in her situation, I would hope that someone would root for me the same way.

Ian

Don Fischer · « **Reply #11 on:** March 28, 2005, 08:42:53 AM »

I know I should stay out of this so, I'm rooting for Terri too. But those of you disgusted with not keeping her in that bed another 50 yrs, look at the bright side. After she's gone you'll still have her husband to hammer!

Patriot_1776 · « **Reply #12 on:** March 28, 2005, 09:37:15 AM »

I fully understand this issue as a pretty hot and touchy subject, and will therefore not make any unnecessary remarks to anyone or encourage it. This is the whole purpose of a discussion. But I'll take it a step further. I believe there is a major showing of the emperor's clothes here in this country. This could get interesting.

Would anybody have supported Christopher Reeve's ventilator being turned off? Would anyone have supported having Ronald Reagan put into a hospice and refused nourishment during the latter stages of his illness?

I just thought of something else too. What about the "stem cell" boom that was supposedly going on in America and abroad? Wouldn't Terri be just as responsive to a stem cell treatment, if found, and be cured of her current situation, as Ronny and Chris, according to massive belief could have to theirs?

-Patriot

P.S. H.B. to Don Fischer

Leverdude · « **Reply #13 on:** March 28, 2005, 10:31:51 AM »

Quote from: Patriot_1776

I fully understand this issue as a pretty hot and touchy subject, and will therefore not make any unnecessary remarks to anyone or encourage it. This is the whole purpose of a discussion. But I'll take it a step further. I believe there is a major showing of the emperor's clothes here in this country. This could get interesting.

Would anybody have supported Christopher Reeve's ventilator being turned off? Would anyone have supported having Ronald Reagan put into a hospice and refused nourishment during the latter stages of his illness?

I just thought of something else too. What about the "stem cell" boom that was supposedly going on in America and abroad? Wouldn't Terri be just as responsive to a stem cell treatment, if found, and be cured of her current situation, as Ronny and Chris, according to massive belief could have to theirs?

-Patriot

P.S. H.B. to Don Fischer

Funny you should mention it like that. The same people who want to keep her hooked up to that machine for 50 more years are against the stem cell research that might just be able to help people like her.

Far as the others you mentioned they aint my buisness, neither is Terri, aint yours neither. Its her husbands & a whole bunch of people who know more about this than anyone here say he hasn't done anything wrong.
He might be a cheating pig of a man but thats not the issue.
What if he's not? Thats the important question. His life isn't over but it might just be that its tainted forever because he tried to grant his wifes wishes.

Haywire Haywood · « **Reply #14 on:** March 28, 2005, 10:33:46 AM »

It is a slippery path that we tread on this issue. One must, MUST be careful not to let extremists take the issue too far in either direction. In my mind, Christopher Reeve's case is not even in the same realm for discussion. He was a sentient being, his mind undamaged, he was just physically paralized. Reagan's case is more on the extreme end of the spectrum that could be included and discussed. If a parkinsons or ol'timers (how do you spell that) patient was the subject here I don't think I could have the same opinion as with Terry.

Ian

FWiedner · « **Reply #15 on:** March 28, 2005, 11:23:47 AM »

Quote from: Patriot_1776

I fully understand this issue as a pretty hot and touchy subject, and will therefore not make any unnecessary remarks to anyone or encourage it. This is the whole purpose of a discussion. But I'll take it a step further. I believe there is a major showing of the emperor's clothes here in this country. This could get interesting.

Would anybody have supported Christopher Reeve's ventilator being turned off? Would anyone have supported having Ronald Reagan put into a hospice and refused nourishment during the latter stages of his illness?

I just thought of something else too. What about the "stem cell" boom that was supposedly going on in America and abroad?

-Patriot

P.S. H.B. to Don Fischer

1) Would anybody have supported Christopher Reeve's ventilator being turned off? Big difference. Mr. Reeve was conscious and sentient throughout his ordeal. But, like Mrs. Schiavo, the choice would have been his.

2) Would anyone have supported having Ronald Reagan put into a hospice and refused nourishment during the latter stages of his illness?
This would be the choice of Mr. Reagan's next of kin, or in accordance with his personal wishes regarding his own care and survival.

3) Wouldn't Terri be just as responsive to a stem cell treatment, if found, and be cured of her current situation, as Ronny and Chris would to theirs?
Both Mr. Reeve and Mr. Reagan had a head full of functioning brain tissue. Mrs. Shiavo's head is more akin to a balloon. Full of something (fluid), but not a functioning or repairable brain.

.

jh45gun · « **Reply #16 on:** March 28, 2005, 11:59:25 AM »

Your baiting Fwed as I really would love to make a comment about the Head/Balloon comment but I will pass so I do not get into trouble. :roll:

Curtis · « **Reply #17 on:** March 28, 2005, 12:27:33 PM »

One comment on the stem cell issue. There are other places besides an embryo to get stem cells as I understand it, however it is expensive. The cheapest place to get stem cells for research is from a human embryo. For those who believe that life begins at conception, this is unacceptable no matter how noble the cause.

Curtis

Leftoverdj · « **Reply #18 on:** March 28, 2005, 01:11:43 PM »

Quote from: Dali Llama

Quote from: Haywire Haywood
you just have to pick sides.
Yep, yer a rootin' for Terri, right, ask Dali Llama???

I'm rooting for Terri, Dali. Rooting for her to be allowed to die and find peace as she wished.

btw, Florida law requires a 48 hour delay before cremation and whether an autopsy is done is strictly the county coroner's call. I dunno what an autopsy would be expected to show after all this time, though.

You might also consider that the same folks calling MS everything but a child of God were singing his praises for three years after her collapse. You might also consider that a police investigation was done at the time of Terri's collapse, found no signs of violence, and is available all over the web, including terrisfight.com.

http://www.terrisfight.org/documents/SPPD%20Police%20Report%20022590.pdf

FWiedner · « **Reply #19 on:** March 28, 2005, 02:18:01 PM »

Quote from: jh45gun

Your baiting Fwed as I really would love to make a comment about the Head/Balloon comment but I will pass so I do not get into trouble. :roll:

I don't know what you think I've done that seems to you like "baiting", but "baiting" isn't my intent.

Let's review:

See the big dark spot in the middle?

Ain't no brain in there, bud.

The stuff left on the outside is just keeping the goo from leakin' out her ears.

Dubious Dan · « **Reply #20 on:** March 28, 2005, 06:16:34 PM »

All the darker areas in her skull are fluid filled not just the part in the center. All that's left of her brain is the sorta grey shaded areas. Not much left.

So far as stem cells go it might be possible to regrow brain tissue in the future. The problem is that they can't regrow destroyed memories or personality. It wouldn't be Terri, it would be a new person in her body that would have to learn everything all over again.

It has been reported that the rumors that Michael is trying to block an autopsy are false. Any evidence of foul play would be long gone after all this time. Broken bones will have healed and there would be no way to determine the exact time of injury. Terri has been dead for the last 15 years and isn't ever going to say anything about anyone. That being said, I don't see what harm it would cause to let her parents take care of what's left.

Michael has educated himself since the start of this and has become an RN. I think he finally got to the point where he knew that Terri is gone and want's to move on with his life. It's my understanding that under Fl law he can't divorce her for some reason or another but I don't know if it' true. I think its because she is unable to appear and testify in court.

Leftoverdj · « **Reply #21 on:** March 28, 2005, 06:32:57 PM »

Michael, per Felos, is requesting an autopsy to put some of this stupidity to an end.

Bob Schindler, after whining that Terri is in terrible agony, is now whining that she is being put to death with morphine. He has also sold names and email addresses of his contributors.

jh45gun · « **Reply #22 on:** March 28, 2005, 08:18:14 PM »

Well you got to admit since folks have said that this is a painless death which I disagree with why the Morphine if it is so painless?

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jh45gun · « **Reply #23 on:** March 28, 2005, 08:23:18 PM »

Fwed About my baiting comment it is not worth the time to even bother to explain it.

Dubious Dan · « **Reply #24 on:** March 28, 2005, 09:27:23 PM »

Link for a normal CT, scroll down a bit.

Normal CT

Haywire Haywood · « **Reply #25 on:** March 28, 2005, 10:51:52 PM »

Quote from: jh45gun

Well you got to admit since folks have said that this is a painless death which I disagree with why the Morphine if it is so painless??

Probably just trying to satisfy the unsatisfiable. Just like the autopsy, give in to pressure and get one and someone finds something else to complain about.

Ian

Dali Llama · « **Reply #26 on:** March 29, 2005, 01:09:16 AM »

Quote from: Leftoverdj

Quote from: Dali Llama
Quote from: Haywire Haywood
you just have to pick sides.
Yep, yer a rootin' for Terri, right, ask Dali Llama???

I'm rooting for Terri, Dali. Rooting for her to be allowed to die and find peace as she wished.

That is precisely as presumed, remark Dali Llama. :-)

jh45gun · « **Reply #27 on:** March 29, 2005, 08:11:33 AM »

Quote from: Haywire Haywood

Quote from: jh45gun
Well you got to admit since folks have said that this is a painless death which I disagree with why the Morphine if it is so painless??

Probably just trying to satisfy the unsatisfiable. Just like the autopsy, give in to pressure and get one and someone finds something else to complain about.

Ian

In this case I kinda doubt any doctor would proscribe any high pain medication just to satisfy some one unless he or she felt it was needed.

Don Fischer · « **Reply #28 on:** March 29, 2005, 01:14:32 PM »

I don't think that Michael is as busy trying to hide something as he is trying to hide from all the people with less than all the fact's, relying on news releases, that are taking cheap shot's at him. Is there anybody at all, anybody here that has first hand knowledge of what's really going on? I doubt it!

jh45gun · « **Reply #29 on:** March 29, 2005, 01:33:54 PM »

Don ever consider that this creep earned some of this disrespect heaped on him? Now Considering that he really does not have a wife anymore I would guess that the marriage could have been annuled even though she could not consent and that he could have went on with life instead of getting a girlfriend and starting a family with her and now acting the caring husband. Sounds like BS to me.