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« on: April 01, 2005, 12:41:09 AM »
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NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE & MARKETS
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> NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION
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> FOR RELEASE: Immediately,
> Thursday March 31, 2005
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> Jessica Chittenden, Ag & Mkts - 518-457-3136
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> Michael Fraser, DEC - 518-402-8000
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> ** NOTE TO REPORTERS **
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> Officials from the State Departments of Agriculture and Markets,
> Environmental Conservation and Health will conduct an 11:30 am
> conference call to provide further information and answer questions from
> the media regarding this issue. To participate in the conference,
> please call 888-456-0279. The password is CWD.
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> POSITIVE CASE OF CWD FOUND IN ONEIDA COUNTY DEER
> Mandatory Testing Protocols Find CWD in a Captive White-Tailed Doe
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> The first positive case of chronic wasting disease (CWD)
> in New York State has been confirmed in a white-tailed doe from a
> captive herd in Oneida County. CWD is a transmissible disease that
> affects the brain and central nervous system of deer and elk.
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> There is no evidence that CWD is linked to disease in
> humans or domestic livestock other than deer and elk.
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> The animal that tested positive for CWD was a six-year old
> white-tailed doe that was slaughtered from a captive herd in Oneida
> County as part of the State's mandatory CWD surveillance and testing
> protocols. Preliminary tests performed at the New York State Veterinary
> Diagnostic Laboratory at Cornell University determined the presumptive
> positive, which was confirmed late yesterday by the National Veterinary
> Services Laboratory in Ames, Iowa.
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> The New York State Department of Agriculture and Markets
> has officially quarantined the index herd in which the positive deer was
> found, and will depopulate and test all deer on the premises. Other
> herds associated with the index herd have also been quarantined and an
> investigation has been initiated to find and test any susceptible deer
> that came into contact with the index herd and to assess the health and
> environmental risks associated with such establishments. The Department
> of Environmental Conservation (DEC) will conduct intensive monitoring of
> the wild deer population surrounding the index herd to ensure CWD has
> not spread to wild deer.
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> CWD is a transmissible spongiform encephalopathy (TSE) of
> deer and elk. Scientific and epidemiological research into CWD is
> ongoing. To date, research shows that the disease is typified by
> chronic weight loss, is always fatal, and is transmissible between
> susceptible species. CWD has only been found in members of the deer
> family in North America, which include white-tailed deer, mule deer, elk
> and moose.
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> CWD has been detected in both wild and captive deer and
> elk populations in isolated regions of North America. To date, CWD has
> been found in Colorado, Illinois, Kansas, Minnesota, Montana, Nebraska,
> New Mexico, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Utah, Wisconsin and Wyoming in the
> United States, and in Saskatchewan and Alberta in Canada.
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> Establishing the known CWD health status of captive and
> wild cervid populations is a critical component for controlling CWD. In
> New York, the responsibility for controlling CWD is shared between the
> State Department of Agriculture and Markets, DEC, and the U.S.
> Department of Agriculture's (USDA) Animal and Plant Health Inspection
> Service (APHIS). New York's cooperative, active surveillance program
> serves as a model for the nation in CWD control.
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> The State Department of Agriculture and Markets monitors
> the health and movement of all captive deer and elk for the presence of
> common livestock diseases, including CWD. In July 2004, the Department
> initiated the CWD Enhanced Surveillance and Monitoring Program, which
> requires captive deer and elk herd owners to take various actions,
> including routine sampling and testing, animal identification and an
> annual herd inventory. Since the inception of testing for CWD in 2000,
> 681 captive deer and elk have been tested and found negative for CWD.
>
> DEC issues licenses to individuals who possess, import or
> sell white-tailed deer. DEC also routinely tests New York's wild deer
> population. Following the discovery of CWD in Wisconsin, DEC
> implemented a statewide surveillance program in April 2002 to test wild
> white-tailed deer for the presence of CWD. Samples are collected and
> sent to an approved USDA laboratory for analysis. To date, DEC has
> taken samples from 3,457 wild white-tailed deer, including 40 from the
> county where the positive deer was found. All samples from wild
> white-tailed deer have tested to date have been negative for CWD.
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> DEC will also implement precautionary regulations limiting
> transportation and possession of whole carcasses and some parts of wild
> deer taken near the location of the captive herd. These regulations
> will be similar to those currently in place for importation of carcasses
> and parts of deer into New York.
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> DEC has also implemented regulations restricting various
> activities to help control CWD within the State, including restrictions
> on the importation of live deer and elk, deer feeding, importation and
> possession of certain deer parts and carcasses, and transportation of
> deer and elk carcasses through New York State.
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> USDA APHIS supports individual State programs by providing
> funding for CWD prevention and surveillance. USDA APHIS reimburses
> states conducting CWD testing on their wild and captive cervid
> population and also provides indemnification dollars for captive herds
> that must be destroyed due to the presence of CWD.
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> New York State has 433 establishments raising 9,600 deer
> and elk in captivity. In the wild, DEC estimates there are
> approximately one million deer statewide.
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« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2005, 09:37:06 AM »
Not good at all...Here's the link to the official NYS Dept of Agriculture & Markets website for the whole story:

CWD in NY
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« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2005, 07:45:04 PM »
Here is the article from the Buffalo News. All I can say is not good.

http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20050403/1073310.asp

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« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2005, 03:40:28 AM »
I've also heard unconfirmed rumors of a second case in that same captive herd.  I cannot substantiate this with printed records though.  I'm still looking...
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« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2005, 07:49:18 PM »
One of the ECOs, here in Region 4, gave us an update last night.  Turns out that the Doe was in a private herd, and this person was also a "rehabilitator".  Only one case discovered, but his entire herd will be destroyed and then examined for CWD.  The belief is still focusing on the cross contamination by housing/feeding of different species.  CWD has long been present in sheep.  Cross contamination through blood, saliva, and/or feces is believed to be the vehicle of transmission.  That's why DEC banned the feeding of deer awhile back.  Prions are known to live quite a long time in the soil.  How long, no one is exactly sure.  Up until now, DEC had tested over a thousand deer, without a single case, in the wild, being found.  As was found in Colorado originally, we now have our first case being discovered in a private herd.  My money is on something in the feed contributing to the spread of this disease.  Either a wash chemical used in the processing of the feed, or animal by-products in the feed itself.  imho.  Joe

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« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2005, 03:00:35 AM »
htrjv;  I've heard the farm owner was also a rehabilitator;  I've also heard but not substantiated that this led to rehabilitated deer from his pen being released into the wild.  Do you have any valid information on that?

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« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2005, 08:21:21 AM »
OK...Here's the printed word on the second case...Check out the link:

Buffalo News Article on 2nd CWD Case
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« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2005, 09:48:25 AM »
Everybody in NY and the surrounding states including PA, VT, CT, MA and NJ should hope and pray that this is an isolated case. This type of situation could be devastating to whitetail hunting in all of these states. This is a blow that hunting in the North East does not need right now especially with dwindling hunter numbers and an aging hunting crowd.
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« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2005, 12:57:33 PM »
The incident happened in Oneida County, I shot three of my four deer in Oneida county and one in Oswego County which boarders Oneida County! Not good! :(
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« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2005, 12:28:12 PM »
They have released the names of the owners and locations. Also, local news said that 3 more of the captive deer that the State killed and tested are positive. Thats a total of 5---so far.

The main "index" herd consisted of 19 animals and was owned by John Palmer of Westmoreland, N.Y., just south of Rome. The second "hobby" herd only had 3 animals, and was a couple miles away. All of these deer were killed and are being tested. Not sure if all the results are in or not, but as noted 3 more cases have been confirmed.

Next week the State DEC will start to cull 420 wild deer in a 10 mile radius around the two farms. In 3-4 weeks we should start getting the results from tests taken on the wild deer. It's bad enough that we have it here in NY. Hopefully it is contained and only involves captive deer. We will know one way or the other fairly soon.

While I don't know Mr. Palmer, I know of a John Palmer from Westmoreland who is a taxidermist. I have no facts, and am just thinking outloud here. If they are one and the same person, I wonder if Mr.Palmer has taken in deer or elk from CWD areas out west for mounting. It seems odd for this disease to jump several States and suddenly turn up here. I hope the State is investigating all avenues.
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« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2005, 08:16:41 PM »
Update:  They have traced infected deer to another farm in Arietta, Hamilton County, NY and they are in the process of shooting additional 25 wild deer around there too.  So far they have killed over 40 from around all farms and all have tested negative.  Let's keep our fingers crossed!

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« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2005, 02:39:35 PM »
Two things have been reported throughout the newspaper media, and various posts.

1.  The deer infected at the original farm came from the Arietta herd back in the 1990s.

2.  It appears that the herd owner in Rome was supplementing his deer feed with animal protein, i.e. animal by-products, consisting of brain, and other animal parts to boost antler growth.
Apparently this owner had no problem donating the infected meat to a Sportsmen Dinner, where 350 sportsmen consummed it.  Maybe he just didn't know?
I have suspected for a long time that animal protein was a contributing factor in the spread of this disease.  But I could not get anyone to explore this possibility.  It makes the most sense in explaining how the disease could jump from state to state in an isolated manner.  I just hope DEC gets its' facts straight, and eliminate, or at least isolate the cause of this problem before next season.  If not, there's already talk of many hunters NOT purchasing their deer licenses later this year.  Only time will tell.

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« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2005, 05:14:34 PM »
palmer is a very questionable person.  he is definately not telling the dec the real facts.  He has been illegally darting deer all over new york.  He been selling baited bear hunts in ny which is illegal.  He is an idiot the might have messed things up for alot of new yorkers.

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« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2005, 05:33:21 AM »
Those are some serious accusations Running & Gunning...Do you have proof to back those statements up?  If not, I suggest you do not spread rumors like that until those rumors can be substantiated by some hard evidence.  Remember...Innocent until proven guilty.
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« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2005, 03:45:26 PM »
these are facts.

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« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2005, 08:12:29 AM »
Wild CWD infected deer found in Oneida County;  Thank you Mr. Palmer!  http://www.dec.state.ny.us/website/press/pressrel/2005/200542.html

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« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2005, 06:17:26 AM »
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these are facts.


That's a statement...Not proof. Where's the proof.  You need proof before you crucify someone.
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« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2005, 12:06:31 PM »
Quote from: WNY_Whitetailer
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these are facts.


That's a statement...Not proof. Where's the proof.  You need proof before you crucify someone.


No, I think you mean rational people need proof before they crucify someone. Mindless mobs only need accusations. People haven't changed much since biblical times. And the Internet is not going to raise anyone's I.Q. by even one point.
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« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2005, 11:03:37 AM »
April 27, 2005, 6:13 PM EDT

SYRACUSE, N.Y. -- State environmental officials said Wednesday they
received a preliminary positive result for chronic wasting disease in a
wild deer.

The positive sample came from the tissue of a yearling white-tailed
deer, which was tested as part of the state Department of Environmental
Conservation's monitoring efforts in Oneida County. The sample, tested
at Cornell University, will be forwarded to the National Veterinary
Services Laboratory in Ames, Iowa, to be verified.

If confirmed, it would be the first known instance of CWD in the wild in
New York state.

The news comes just six days after state wildlife officials reported
none of the tissue samples taken from 64 wild deer had tested positive.
Authorities have so far confirmed five infected captive deer.

The DEC began intensive monitoring after CWD was found in two captive
white-tailed herds in Oneida County. The state Department of Agriculture
and Markets completed testing of the captive deer in early April and
found five positive results for the disease in the two captive herds. It
marked the first time CWD had been found outside the Midwest or Rocky
Mountains.

The DEC said it will file emergency regulations later this week to
ensure proper handling of deer in an effort to prevent further spread of
CWD in the wild. The regulations will establish a containment area in
Oneida County where CWD has been identified. Initially, it will include
the cities of Rome, Sherrill, Utica and Oneida, and the towns of Floyd,
Marcy, Whitestown, Westmoreland, Verona, Vernon, Kirkland and New
Hartford.

The new rules will prohibit movement of certain animal parts out of the
containment area, establish mandatory check stations for any deer taken
by hunters in the containment area, and prohibit possession of any deer
killed by a motor vehicle so DEC can acquire specimens for testing.

The collection, sale, possession, or transport of deer or elk urine
taken from the containment area also will not be allowed. Urine is used
by hunters to attract the animals.

The emergency rules also will specify record keeping and reporting
requirements for taxidermists, and wildlife rehabilitators will be
prohibited from taking in wild white-tailed deer at facilities that
house live antlered animals unless the rehabilitators possess a specific
permit from DEC. Retailers who sell deer feed will be required to post a
sign reminding customers that feeding wild deer is illegal.

"Our emergency regulations will be finalized by the end of the week in
the containment area," DEC spokesman Michael Fraser said. "We're going
to require hunters to check any deer. Right now, we're sampling road
kill, and in the fall we hope to sample results from hunter-killed
deer."

DEC has conducted statewide sampling of wild deer for CWD since 2002. To
date, more than 3,700 samples have been taken from wild white-tailed
deer. Fraser said the intensive sampling of tissue in Oneida County
would end early Saturday.

"We've always said we were going to take an adaptive approach to the
samplings," he said. "Now, we'll go about trying to shift gears, change
the approach a little and make a determination exactly where it is and
how frequently it's occurring."

Concern the fatal disease could spread to humans arose recently after
350 people at a sportsman's dinner in March ate venison from sick deer.
Scientists say they're still learning about CWD and can't say for sure
if it could be transmitted to humans.

CWD affects the brain and central nervous system of certain deer and
elk. There is no evidence that it is linked to disease in humans or
domestic livestock other than deer or elk.
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« Reply #19 on: April 30, 2005, 02:48:03 AM »
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« Reply #20 on: May 01, 2005, 12:30:39 PM »
Hi Guys, I had my meeting with DEC yesterday, and yes, CWD took up most of the day's discussion.  Here is the skinny on this subject:

1.  45 deer where taken at the Arietta site, and ALL tested negative.

2. CWD was found in 1 additional wild whitetail near the Rome farm.  See the April 28 Press Release at DEC's site (www.dec.st.ny.us).

3. 420 deer where to be killed for inspection in the 10 mile target area around the two deer farms.  Approxiamately 290 have been taken, and no additional deer have been found to have CWD. The unfortunate part here is that DEC was denied access to Onieda Indian Land, by the tribal leaders.  So a major portion of the target area, west and southwest of the two farms could not be sampled to determine if CWD had spread to wild deer in that area.  DEC is still trying to gain access, but is not very hopeful.

4. DEC will being implementing additonal restrictions on the movement of deer in this area, commencing shortly.  Expect to see more inspection stations this fall, and some possibly severe restrictions on moving harvested deer from this area.  Please keep in mind, this is a "Work in Progress"  for them.  They ARE trying their best to get their arms around this problem.

5.  CWD has now been confirmed in MOOSE, in addition to Whitetail, Mule deer, and Elk.

So the bottom line is:

Is CWD in the wild in NY?  Yes.  To what extent, no one knows.

Please keep checking DECs website to find out the latest info.  They did tell me that they will be holding several meetings in the target area to inform sportsmen on their findings and proposed restrictions.  I'm sure you will see more in your local papers.

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« Reply #21 on: May 02, 2005, 09:15:22 AM »
Did you find out WHERE the moose was & if it's documented anywhere?  Thanks

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« Reply #22 on: May 02, 2005, 12:34:07 PM »
No, they did not say.  But, I can tell you this, it was brought up by a DEC willdlife biologist who participated in the operations in Rome.  Joe

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« Reply #23 on: May 27, 2005, 07:35:03 AM »
Spencer and I went to a seminar last night in Tully, hosted by the CNY chapter of the QDMA, regarding CWD.  It was very informative, and interesting.  It was too bad this wasn't advertised very well, there were only about 3 dozen people there to listen.  There was a DEC official there, to help answer state specific questions as well.  They reported that out of over 400 deer tested in the hot zone, two wild doe were found with CWD.  It is not known if they are related and it was shared through a genetic link.  They have been testing deer state wide, about 500-1000 a year, but are planning to double this in the near future.
If you plan on hunting near or in the hot zone, please do everyone a favor by:
taking all harvested deer to a checkpoint,
not being shy, SHOOT DOES!!!
do not transport deer urine into or out of this zone.  Yes, I said deer urine.
be clean and safe when dressing and butchering your deer.
If a deer looks sick, do not eat any of the meat.  As for any other deer, bon appetit!
They also referred us to the DEC website, which will be updated often, for further info, as well as the CWD info website.
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« Reply #24 on: June 06, 2005, 04:33:25 PM »
Thanks for the updates guys, unfortunate turn of events for us in NY.