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Offline moxgrove

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« on: April 01, 2005, 02:20:00 AM »
Are they not building them anymore? the website doesnt list it. Sportsouth does have it in stock. Has anyone done much with one. It seems like a lot
of pressure for one of these babies. It can't take .375 win pressue for long and that is a smaller diameter cartridge at 10,000 psi less. I don't want to be a pessimist, could the chamber be re used for 50/70. Still a big 50  but a lot less pressue
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« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2005, 02:44:10 AM »
Do a search on the 500 Smith in this forum and all your questions will be answered, it's been hashed out before, quite thoroughly I might add.

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« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2005, 05:36:30 AM »
Where did you get your data on failure with the 375 Winchester?  I know a number of folks have bought BC's in 38-55, and at least some of them are using them as 375's.  Haven't heard of any problems until now.
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« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2005, 06:40:30 AM »
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I think you are underestimating the Handi.  The 375 is loaded to SAAMI spec the same as a 308 Win, which also has a larger case dia and case head, thus would also produce more rear thrust than the 375 Win.

I cannot see ANY problems with 375 pressures in the Handi.  Have given SERIOUS consideration to buying a 30-30 barrel and having it bored to 375 Win specs, or even 375/444 specs.  It will handle either.
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« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2005, 07:06:28 AM »
Isn't the 500 S&W a new chamber for H&R in 2005-THIS year?
So why would they stop making them before they have got them out yet?
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« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2005, 07:35:50 AM »
As with a couple other calibers, they just aren't available yet, but they are listed on the H&R web site....

http://www.hr1871.com/firearms/index.php?cat=4&subcat=6

You won't find it in the accessory barrel program....yet, dunno if that's gonna happen.... :wink:
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« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2005, 10:29:48 AM »
The more I think of it, the more I wonder if it will become something like Marlin's M1895RL in .475 Linebaugh/.480 Ruger...  Lots of interest and talk, only to find they are unable to make it due to pressure issues.   Hopefully it will come to fruition.
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« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2005, 02:11:31 PM »
when are they going to be available i just would like to get a new toy
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« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2005, 02:26:34 PM »
The best way to find out when they will be available is call em, ask for Jennifer ....(978) 630-8220

or email them...

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« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2005, 05:29:10 PM »
I emailed them still waiting for an answer guess I get one from them monday. I am hopeful to get one in 500. Going to try factory lead first
then find some good handloads since the 500 ammo is still pricy
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« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2005, 05:32:07 PM »
They usually answer their emails the following business morning....
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« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2005, 02:19:26 PM »
went to local gunshop today and was told that they ordered handis
in feb. and still havent got them yet gonna be paitent i hope
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« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2005, 02:45:25 PM »
Max i think you have things backwards the NEF website does have them and this is a new rifle just went into production i beleive fef & mar. or  Mar & apr. South sport does not have them yet  but should by may.
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« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2005, 05:59:22 PM »
There is no question to the strength of a SB2 frame Handi now. With
500 S&W loads in 60-65k range. Talk about power..plus the extra velocity
of a closed breech and the longer brl length (extra 100-200 fps over the revolver, I would say) .....That baby is going to rock....both ways.
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« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2005, 07:46:50 PM »
Quote from: Little Magnum
There is no question to the strength of a SB2 frame Handi now. With
500 S&W loads in 60-65k range. Talk about power..plus the extra velocity
of a closed breech and the longer brl length (extra 100-200 fps over the revolver, I would say) .....That baby is going to rock....both ways.


Yeah, makes me feel a lot better about my heavy 20 project. Hmmm, a 500 S&W SB2, I can think of a few things to do with that.
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« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2005, 07:59:13 PM »
Quote from: Little Magnum
There is no question to the strength of a SB2 frame Handi now. With
500 S&W loads in 60-65k range. Talk about power..plus the extra velocity
of a closed breech and the longer brl length (extra 100-200 fps over the revolver, I would say) .....That baby is going to rock....both ways.


Funny...my Hodgdons manual shows from 22,800psi to 50,700psi...where you getting the  65K at?

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« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2005, 05:34:47 AM »
The SAAMI spec for 500S&W pressure is 65,000.
Unless H&R/NEF specifies a lower than standard pressure for it's 500S&W, the rifle will have to be able to handle it.
Average loading data for this cartridge stops at around 50 to 55k...why I don't know.

My question is this; If the H&R can handle these pressures, why can't we get magnum RIFLE rounds in this rifle ?
The 500 S&W has a larger case head than the 375 H&H, so the case head force arguement is no longer valid !
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« Reply #17 on: April 04, 2005, 04:01:41 PM »
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They usually answer their emails the following business morning....

got the reply from H&R and they said it would be mid year, so I assume
around June or July.
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