Be sure to let us all know how you like the .410 and how it shoots and patterns. I keep toying with the idea of a Tamer, myself. I really like that nickle receiver but I don't think I would like the 20in barrel all that much in a 410. I'm with you! I would like an Ultra Slug, too. I think I have talked myself into the Youth Ultra 20ga with the 22in barrel. That will have to wait till the funds are better. Enjoy your new 410.