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Just how many reloading manuals does a guy really need??????
« on: April 05, 2005, 02:05:37 PM »
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 Ive been loading for quite a while and have picked up a few newer manuals here and there  i got to looking though and theres so much variance in starting loads and max loads between the books its scarey. Iam not real sure which to go with .Iam goin with the marlin 1895 loads and I know the 45-70 can be loaded hot i have a simeese mauser that will take alot more than me.iam just wanting loads close to factory specs.RayA
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« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2005, 03:00:27 PM »
That variance is the reason why you need a bunch of manuals. If the load you're about to put together is one of those way out of line with all other manuals and you're not aware of that you might blow up a gun. Don't assume all book loads are light ones, they aren't.

I suspect I have over 50 loading manuals and yet still try to get the latest ones out from all the major sources. If I use their bullets or powder I'll have their newest manual. Count on it.


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« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2005, 05:24:30 PM »
The bullet manufactures recommend loading with there data. Because the bullets differ in length and bullet constructions. Longer bullets affect pressures different. I have a bunch of reloading manuals, does not hunt having a few.  :D
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« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2005, 08:15:31 PM »
Some day, you might buy a 33 winchester or a 38-55 or a 46-50.  If you have some of the older manuals, usually found at all the better gun shows, they will help find data.  

Powders are constantly changing.  I has been stated that the newer powder with the same name - such as 4831 -is a bit more powerful than when it was 10 years ago.

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« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2005, 01:16:48 AM »
crow_feather, you are correct in saying, "powder is a bit more powerful than when it was 10 years ago."

If you look at the older books the powder charges are higher than todays books.
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« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2005, 12:28:29 PM »
Reloading manuals are like "money in the bank".  You can never have enough.  The reason I believe is everything changes.  Bullets change, powders change, etc. and a reloader has to keep up with what is going on.  You can never have enough information when dealing with anything that explodes.  Lawdog
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« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2005, 03:32:35 PM »
Hii Ya'll  
 thanks for the replys Ive been pretty carefull about the loads i put thru this marlin its the closest thing to a new gun i own. I always look thru and see whats what when cookin up something new and always check for preasure problems every shot. Haa crow_feather ive been looking for older loading info for H-4831 now that ya brought that one up.  guess i'll have to hit the shows and see what i can come up with.  thanks again guys.  RayA
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« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2005, 06:49:52 AM »
I think it wise to check a couple load manuals before reloading. Sometimes I go thru 5 or 6 before reloading. I have about 15 or more. :lol:

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« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2005, 12:13:26 PM »
RayA,

I have some of the older 1960/70 manuals.  If you send me a message with your e-mail address and the calibers you are interested in, I could scan and send you the information.

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« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2005, 11:09:41 AM »
Personally, with the advent of the internet and online manufacturer reloading data, there's less of a reliance on published data, so I'd say 2 maybe 3 manuals will get you through. Then use the 'net to cross reference and ask some questions where needed.
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« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2005, 11:25:05 AM »
you can't have too many, imo.

I think I have...

2 (and old one and a newer one) Hornady's
2 Sierra
2 Speer
2 Nosler
1 Accurate Powder
1 Hogdon Powder
1 Barnes
1 Vihtnavouri

(So about 12... I guess)

I should also add "Wildcat Cartridges Volume 1 and 2",  "Pet Loads" by Waters, and "Cartridges of the World" by Barnes - all of which have load data.

And that stack of Handloader magazines...

I can sit and read and re-read them during football games or out in front of the TV on a random weeknight.  I'm always looking for new data.

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« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2005, 04:23:44 PM »
After reloading for well over 20 years, I have a shelf-full of books on the subject. Included are all the free pamphlets from the powder companies, all kinds of articles I have cut out of gun magazines, Handloader magazine, and most of the products of the major bullet manufacturers. Also have Ken Waters' "Pet Loads" but often find his data too hot for my tastes, but still lots of good info. Even have an old water-stained copy of Phil Sharpe's book "Complete Guide to Handloading". Then there's Steindler's book, Grennell's book, McPherson's book, bullet casting books, and so on. Oh, even have a copy of Noble Sport's handloading manual by Rene Malfatti which is fascinating to read, even if I only have four types of their powder.

Old material I never get rid of for the reasons stated in previous posts.  In fact, I keep my eyes open for old stuff I don't already have.  

Well, there is a point to make after enumerating all these references. That point is, I use them all. When looking for specific data, I like to compare info from several sources. As to the general information they contain, I have learned much from each one, and much of it was different from one book to the next.

I have to admit that I started reloading with the Speer manual and I still am very comfortable using it. Often it is the book I reach for if I am just refreshing my memory to reload a common cartridge.  Speer data seems to be on the soft side, too, so you really can't go too wrong on their loads.  Remember, hot or maximum loads are usually not the most accurate ones.  

Lastly, I would be remiss if I didn't mention the internet, which we didn't have when I started reloading many years ago. In recent times, it has been a goldmine of information for me, particularly with respect to obtaining information on the more unusual cartridges. I have two loose-leaf binders stuffed to overflowing with copied material that I have retained.