Removing escaped wolves?

[rosaroca]

East of Moore, Oklahoma, there may be an escaped full-blood wolf (or by now a wolf pack, since one of the escapees was an unspayed female) that is killing livestock. I'm not a hunter myself, and need advice and/or some hunter willing to come in and try to locate and kill or capture the offenders.

It could also be a pack of coyotes doing the killing. Or, a cougar (probably again an escaped or released pet), since one has been spotted in the area several times over the last few years.

Any advice or assistance would be appreciated!

[mjbgalt]

no takers yet???

maybe you could call the nra by using the number on their website and see if they can locate someone for ya.

-Matt

[rosaroca]

Nope, no takers yet. We do have confirmation that it is a pack of full-blood wolves, hybrid wolves, and coyotes, though. They were actually seen (in broad daylight) chasing some horses and one neighbor shot two of them. He says the two he shot look like full-blood wolves but are slightly smaller than a couple of the others that were in the pack. He thinks there were 15 to 20 individuals!

Meanwhile, everyone is keeping up their small livestock, which is becoming a financial burden now, since my Miniature Horses can't get out and graze on the pasture. I have to feed a lot more hay - expensive and hard to get this time of the year.

I sure wish I could find a predator hunter who wanted to take on this challenge!

[Robert]

Gonna need someone in a helicopter to cover a lot of ground and search.  FishnGame should be on something such as this.  But if they are anything like here in Oregon....they probably don't care.

[oso45-70]

rosaroca,

I have been called out many times to hunt a ( lion, wolf, or coyote pack )
and it turned out to be a bunch of dogs. I think if you had a Wolf pack on the loose some one would have brought the problem to a halt, Thats just my opinion, Welcome to gbo and good luck........Joe...........

[rosaroca]

Oh, there's no doubt that there is at least one wolf and several hybrids, probably wolf and coyote, as well as some coyotes possibly. A neighbor shot two of them the other day when the pack (or 15 or 20 individuals!) was chasing his horses in broad daylight. I have also heard from a hunter who has seen them and says they're definitely wolves or hybrids and not merely coyotes.

So far, the pack has killed at least 3 Barbados sheep and a couple of goats.

I personally know the neighbor who raises purebred wolves, and admits to having had an unspayed female and an unneutered male run away sometime last year.  They've had plenty of time to raise a litter or two.

Part of the problem is that they're doing a lot of their hunting inside the Oklahoma City city limits, on the outskirts where there are small acreages as well as a public lake with lots of open land, and discharging firearms in the city limits is illegal.

[Qaz]

I may be wrong but this is how it was explained to me. Wolves kill dogs and coyotes,(usually on sight), Coyotes kill foxes, foxes run for their lives. If you see coyotes, you will see very few foxes. If you see many coyotes, there are no or few wolves around. A federal trapper told me this! You will not see wolves, coyotes and dogs running as a pack, that makes no sense. I would tend to agree with oso45-70 on the dogs.
 I would think the problem would be easy to solve. Go to the local feed store and ask who around there hunts coyotes with hounds, and give them a call. Although I was at the National Greyhound museum in Abilene, KS last summer and was told that it was illegal to hunt jackrabbits with dogs, so maybe coyotes are on the same list.

[rosaroca]

Well, it was also someone with game management that told me that wolves and coyotes will sometimes interbreed, especially if the escaped wolf is a female. (And the female was the first to escape, some 6 months before the full-blood male ran away.)

Hmmm. I don't know what to believe, except that we have a problem. Luckily, I haven't heard of any livestock losses lately. Of course, most of us who have small livestock (miniature horses, goats, sheep) are keeping them confined in small pens near our homes, hopefully in fences that would make it difficult for wolves to get to them.

Before it got so hot here, I was sleeping with my window open, and I heard the pack almost every night. There were definitely some "wolf-sounding" voices in it, and several individuals.

[myronman3]

this is too easy.  get yerself a dead calf, deer or whatever.    find a piece of property in the area you have control over.   block the dead animal from overhead view,  and inject it with a bunch of anti freeze.  

  let others in the area know what you are doing and check up on your bait frequently.   it is vital you keep control over the area the animal is placed.       after they hit it and seem to be done,  go out and destroy the remains so other none target animals get into it.

[Sourdough]

Don't know where the mith Wolves and Cayotes won't cross?  Just look at the land between the lakes in Tennessee.  USFW turned Red Wolves loose there, and they are crossing with the local Cayotes.  Coy-dogs (cross between cayote and dogs) are common there also.

It's not uncommon for a Homesteaders only dog to have a litter of pups, and as they grow they look more like wolves every day.  Especially, since there was not another dog with-in 30 to 40 miles of their place.   I also know some people that found a wolf pup and raised it.  As soon as she matured and went into heat, all the local male dogs tried to get into her pen.

[chaplain robert]

I don't know if you have your problem fixed but you might try posting on predatormaster.com and see if you don't more response.  Wish you were closer, I'd like to help.