Is 300 Whisper that much better

[Bill R.]

Well, I've done it again. I traded into a 300 whisper barrel, 10" SS new in the box. Got the dies from Midway today so I'm all set. Then I started thinking, is it that much better than say a 30/30. I would appreciate the opinions of some of you guys who have shot one. Will it do anything the 30/30 won't. Is it worth forming all of the brass. I had planned to open my 16" 30/30 up to 30/40 Krag and use the 300 Whisper for close stuff. Do any of you all actually hunt with it. How does it do on deer?

Thanks for any responses.

Bill R.

[HotGuns]

The .300 Whisper ia a great round that comes from its versatility.

It actually has better downrange ballistics than the .30-30 due to it ability to shoot spitzer bullets whereas the .30-30 is limited to bluntnose designns, unless you are shooting it in the Contender... :lol:

The things to watch for is the rifling twist. A 1-10 twist will only stablize the lighter bullets, much over 180 grainers will be tumbling after a short range.

Heavier bullets need a 1-8. There is a tradeoff there, it may not be the best for the extremely light bulllets.

The .300 became popular because it was the most efficent .30 caliber cartridge at the time that was suppressed...that could be fit into exisiting AR magazines and use the same AR bolt.
It used a heavy bullet,(220) with an exellent BC that allowed it to hit harder than anything else and it allowed it to do it with a small powder charge that wasnt near as sensitve to postion in the case as other calibers that suffered from erratic ignition.

Its a good round in the supersonic range in the fact its not so loud, it gets the job done and in an AR you have mutiple shots.

I never personally have killed a deer with mine, I havent had the chance yet. A friend of mine that has the same AR platform killed two with his last season. One with a 220 suppressed round and one with a supersonic 150 grain Nosler Ballistic Tip. He zeroed his scope for the 150 NBT and had his iron sights zeroed for the suppressed 220.

We were hunting together. He whacked a medium sized doe with the suppressed round.  He was a couple hundred yards away and I never heard the shot. The round entered right behind the shoulder just above the heart and exited. The deer was recovered about 115 yards from where it was shot. Not much different than any other cartridge.

About a week later he shot a 6 point buck with the supersonic round. He hit it in the heart. That one was recovered about 70 yards away. After inspection, it did more damage than the suppressed round did which only made a nice clean hole and did not expand at all.

Both deer were killed. This was with a 16 inch barrelled AR-15.

I wish I could tell you about the 10 incher but thats all I've got on the .300 Whisper.

Since my Contender is stainless, Id like to get the Whisper in stainless to match the rest of my barrels. Where did you get it?

[Huntyeraws]

It actually has better downrange ballistics than the .30-30 due to it ability to shoot spitzer bullets whereas the .30-30 is limited to bluntnose designs.

Bite your tongue!    No flatnoses in my .30-.30 contender!

[bgjohn]

A 30 Herrett is better than a whisper. Who needs subsonic? Not me.
JM

[Gregory]

I had a 10" SSK barrel and used it to take one deer.  I took a small spike buck at about 30 yds.  Hit him right behind the shoulder using a Rem 125 gr PSP bullet.
 
I recovered the deer about after about 100 yds or so, bullet completely passed through, but there was hardly any blood trail, just a few drops about 20 yds past the impact.  Every thing inside was mush when I opened him up so it worked , but I'm sticking with my 357 Max as a deer gun.  I sold my Whisper.
 
Very accurate cartridge though.

[spinafish]

Stoke her up with 125 BT's over all the H-110 she'll digest with indigestion and he'll be surprized by the accuracy...I have loaded everything from a 90 XTP to 180 Sierra's and have gotten excellent accuracy from my 14" Custom Shop barrel.

[poule d'eau]

A 30 Herrett is better than a whisper. Who needs subsonic? Not me.
JM

Have to agree with the above on the subsonic issue. I fooled with one for a couple of years, 14" 300x221. Subsonic loads shot very well, most of the time. But it just wasn't my style. I had my best luck using 222 brass rather than 221. I didn't have to neck turn or ream, thanks to TC's generous chambering practices. I had shot everything from the 110's all the way up to 190's in mine, H110, 296 and AA39 were the powders.
If you go the subsonic route and are going to do load work much past 100M, do your self a favor and use the Burris signature rings, as you more than likely will run out of elevation.

I looked long and hard at the 30 Herrett, chambering issues on it I didn't care for, so I just went with the 30-30. Quick easy and no pain for cases. I will have a "properly" chambered 30 Herrett some day.
Jeff

[jason280]

The things to watch for is the rifling twist. A 1-10 twist will only stablize the lighter bullets, much over 180 grainers will be tumbling after a short range.

Not exactly true.  I shoot with a friend who has a Whisper built on a Savage 10FP, and it has a 1/10" twist barrel.  It shoots everything up to 210gr bullets, and has no problems stabalizing them.  I can't say the same thing for 220-240gr bullets, as we have yet to try any with his rifle.  The only gun I've shot the Sierra BTHP Match 240s in was an AR15, which had a 1/8" twist.