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Offline jeff223

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« on: April 17, 2005, 01:56:45 AM »
i trying to get a special oreder going for the 180gr Lee mold.this is the same mold that leftoverdj is using for the boolits he and mag41vance or useing in their rifles.this boolit has had good reports and im going to get into the casting game for my max hand rifle.

this deal is just starting and there seems to be alot of interest in it on another forum.

anyone interested?

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« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2005, 02:22:42 AM »
Jeff, I would be depending upon the price, and thanks for your efforts....<><.... :grin:
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« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2005, 02:33:24 AM »
I'd be interested too.
I bought a couple of Aladin's 210gr 30 cal molds when he did a group buy, I think I paid about $35 for them.

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« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2005, 02:39:42 AM »
I got one of those also Mitch and I think it was less than that....<><.... :grin:
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« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2005, 03:47:00 AM »
I think that Lee's pricing structure has changed since Aladins project. Be prepared for a price increase, but also know that without exception, everyone who got one of these 180 molds has had exellent results from it. It is good heavy for the 38 Special, 357 Mag and 357 Max, it also makes a good bullet for the 35 Remington. If there is such a thing as a "must have" mold, this one is it.
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« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2005, 08:18:21 AM »
JPH, how much are we talking for a 100 mold run when the "bit" for cutting them is already on the shelf?
I'm thinking Aladin charged us $15 a mold plus shipping, and that included the design/tooling charges for a custom mold. I wish I'd gotten the "fat" mold I ordered from Aladin, instead of two regular ones. I wanted to try the HBC in 7.65 and .303.

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« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2005, 11:32:45 AM »
Has anyone done a run on making the Lee 379-250-rf as a C359-xxx-rf.
I would think this would be a great bullet for the .35 Rem and the .35 Whalen, as well as a really big bullet for the .357max.
Should weigh at least 235-240 gr for the same length, 250 if lengthened slightly.
I would have to go for one if it was available.
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« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2005, 12:53:03 PM »
Based on the price of another group buy currently in progress, $56.00 which includes the shipping. That price may be higher than a repeat order for an existing design, but I do know that about the time that LeftoverDJ did the 25 cal mold, Lee did a price increase on these molds. We'll know more when someone steps up to honcho this deal, contacts Lee and gets a firm price at hand. Takes a minimum of 25 orders for Lee to waive the $100.00 set up fee.  That fee exists regardless if the design is an existing design or new.
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« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2005, 01:14:28 PM »
im thinking the mold cost is around $56.00 just like jph45 said.i havent talked to LEE company yet but i will.the nice thing about this boolit its been proven in the  357mag and max guns from the guys that got in on the buy before.

another nice thing about this mold is it will drop 6 boolits out at a time.i want the mold myself for my max and im sure it wont be that hard to get an order of 25 molds or more

MAKE SURE YOU CLICK ON THE PICTURE and it will come in better for you.i dont know why it didnt turn out better than it did?

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« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2005, 02:50:06 PM »
I didn't realize it was a 6 holer we were talking about. Are the optional handles included?
Too bad they aren't regular production like the c430-310-rf. BTW, what's the consensus on the .44 version?

I looked in my checkbook, I paid Jay $36.55 for the two HBC molds, but that was more than a year ago for one hole molds.

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« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2005, 04:18:16 PM »
Mitch in MI, The 44 mold deal seems to have frozen up, but I'm sure just a little interest would get it rolling again. It is a plain base design of app 250 grains weight that is of the ojival wadcutter style. More info can be found at www.castboolits.gunloads.com click on the Group Buys forum. That would be a nearly perfect bullet for a 44 Handi with plinking/midrange  loads.
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« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2005, 09:51:37 PM »
I can't commit right now, but I would definately be interested in the 6 cavity, 180gr 357 mould if it were a gas check design with a wide flat nose. Similar to the Lee 44cal 310gr gas check.
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« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2005, 12:19:31 PM »
Quote from: Bob
I can't commit right now, but I would definately be interested in the 6 cavity, 180gr 357 mould if it were a gas check design with a wide flat nose. Similar to the Lee 44cal 310gr gas check.
Bob


That is exactly what this is.
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« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2005, 02:22:55 PM »
i called and talked to Lee Precision today.you must have a order of 25 molds to wave the setup fee of $100.00.if you have 100 molds you get a discount like a dealer would.i know an order of 100 molds would be alot of work for someone getting them all packaged up and off to the buyers.a 25 mold run wouldnt be that bad and im willing to do that amount.

the price of the 6 holer would be $56.00 shipped

a 2 holer would run around $30.00 shipped.

the 6 holer would need a set of handles and the 2 holer comes with them
i dont know what the guys want for sure yet but all the molds must be the same,either a 2 or 6 holer.

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« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2005, 04:42:45 PM »
You can put me down for two 2 holers or a 6 banger, whichever direction this thing takes.
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« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2005, 05:13:44 PM »
Jeff, the six holers come in a shippable box.  They only take a wrap of tape and an address glued on. Make sure you get real name, screen name, and email address for everyone, or you will go nuts trying to keep track.

I strongly suggest the six holers. They are way better built and will last a lot longer. Most of the folks interested will already have a set of  Lee handles.

Lar's original run was 45 moulds and most of us have shared bullets with friends. My best guess is that over a hundred people have run those bullets through everything imaginable and I have yet to hear of anyone unhappy. I would suggest a .360 sizer for Handis and Marlins.
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« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2005, 03:29:07 AM »
I just had a thought. If this mold is at least as useful as 430-310-RF, why can't it be a catalog item like 430-310-RF?

Does Lars own any rights to the design, or could Lee just put it into production if they chose to?

If we could talk to the right guy at Midway (anybody have Larry Potterfield's email address?), what would happen if we gave him the names of 40 people who would, right now, pay $34.99 plus shipping for a 358-180-RF six hole mold? Would that be enough reason to order 100 and put the rest in the monthly flyer as a new product? I'd think the first 100 would go in a month at that price, just from internet word of mouth. ($34.99 is regular catalog price at Midway for 6 hole Lee)

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« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2005, 07:24:53 AM »
Put me down for a mold as well (.357 Mag). I have two sources for learning bullet casting. One is a guy my age and the other is an old curmudgeon from the club I belong to. The guy my age is hard to get in touch with and the older guy isn't a real good teacher (meaning we don't get along real well).

I will be in for which ever mold is offered and hope my teacher can run me through the basics.

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