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Offline Mason

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« on: May 16, 2005, 03:05:01 PM »
I'm new to trapping and have a few beginner questions. What is the best snare for trapping coyotes, bobcats, coons and foxes? I'm thinking of buying the ones from the Snare Shop. I just need to know what length and diameter to get. What else will I need to get started?

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« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2005, 03:16:39 PM »
Welcome!  We sorta need to know your situation / location.  Cable size, lenght and locks for killing snares are very different than for restraining snares.  If you will elaborate a bit we have the experience amongest the members to get you on the right path.

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« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2005, 03:37:59 PM »
Wackyquacker,
I live in South Arkansas and am wanting to trap some predators to help improve the turkey population. I will be using both restraining and killing snares. Where is the best place to order the trapping equipment? Any information on getting started trapping will be appreciated.

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« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2005, 04:24:25 PM »
Mason what are your states rules on snares.  Then we can  help you more knowing if you have limitations.....

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« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2005, 01:29:31 AM »
RdFx, In Arkansas, you cant have leg snares or killing springs.

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« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2005, 02:22:10 AM »
Mason,I do make and sell snares,as well as trapping equpment.
 Let the snare boys on here give you more information before you decide on what you need.Read as much as you can on it.
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« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2005, 04:10:51 AM »
Mason it is real important to KNOW exactly what your Regs say.  For example, the camlock is a relaxing lock by many definitions but not in WI or any state that has adopted WI type Regs.  

It sounds like you can snare (as opposed to "cable Restrain") but not use the more efficient dispatching techniques.  Now, you will benefit by choosing snares for entanglement vs. open trail sets.  Here is a rule of thumb; heavier cable (3/32) for non-entanglement to reduce chew out losses and smaller cable (5/64 a big difference in refusals) in entanglement situations, lethal sets.  On these bigger cables, you will find 7X7 configurations very good and the easiest to use.   For coyotes and these snares 5 foot snares will be pretty close to the minimum.  

You should consider break-away "S" hooks to release leg snared deer and livestock on all your land snares.  Remember, just because you have a release feature incorporated into your snare is not license to snare in pastures or on deer trails.  Make certain that you anchor your snares well and in a very ridged way, i.e., no to a "springy" limb etc.  In non entanglement snares need to be staked as well if not better than traps.

Be very cognizant of the public and restrict your snaring to "out of sight" locations and away from hounds man haunts.  Fences will almost always lead to a lethal set and often end with a visual mess.

Hope this helps some.

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« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2005, 03:26:26 PM »
I know I'll get a lot of flack on this.
 "IF" you dont nead a deer stop on your snares. There is ONE snare that will catch,hold or kill all the furbearers that you listed.
 
1/16" x 48" 1x19  swiveled with a SLIM LOCK.S-hooked to a 3/32" x 72"  7x7 extension cable

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« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2005, 04:40:30 PM »
Her in Ohio we have to use relaxing locks so I use relaxing washer locks. Usually berkshires or quarter size washer locks I make myself. I like 5/64th 7X7 cable 5 foot long with in line swivel and 5 foot of 3/32 extension cable. I use entanglement for coyotes and switch to 3/32 cable to coon and beaver with no entanglement. This what I have learned to use over the years listening to the guys on here and reading whatever I could get my hands on. Worm
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« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2005, 06:40:54 PM »
OK Newty...flack flack flack flack.   You happy now?

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« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2005, 02:54:45 AM »
Quack,Quack, Quack.When did they let you out of the rubber walled room ?
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« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2005, 04:49:53 AM »
They haven't...just put a modem through the feeding hole :oops:

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« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2005, 12:56:36 PM »
:roll:   :eek:  :-D    :)  :D
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« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2005, 04:10:27 AM »
Don't know if you remember me or not but I bought 100 slim locks from you Newt, at Columbia last Aug. I needed a BAD for snaring in Wy so I put John Grahms ferrule on. Ive got nothing but good to say about slim locks. Everything I neck snared was dead. And without a lot of struggle. Every single lock was reusable as well. I saw a post on Tman that said slim locks had a burr. NONE of mine do. I'm buying more of them. I especially like the low profile. I'm convinced you get fewer walk arounds. BTW I used 5/64 cable. It took about a half doz snares before I figured out the best way to put that little bend in the end of the cable, but once I had that figured out they went together smoothly.

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« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2005, 05:49:40 AM »
Heres how I make a snare support. I got the idea after seeing something like it a friend had bought.

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« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2005, 03:53:35 PM »
Danny, I hear you. Most of the time people post and they talk about something that they had no experance with. They just repete what another bull crap artis talked about.
Just last week in Michigian A guy told me the the SLIM LOCKS are no good. He said they wont lock up,His fox and coyotes were alive in entanglement ,They blow out and are not reuseable. I said "O-WELL" and walked away.

 The big one is about 1/16" 1x19 cable.No one will beleave you when you tell them that its good beaver and coyote cable.
 Probley even after they see Clint and my NEW video. They will say we used trick photogery. -OR - say "IT wont hold my beaver  or my coyotes in my state"
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