Author Topic: .223-5.56mmNato (Read 779 times)

wipartimer · « **on:** May 16, 2005, 04:21:21 PM »

Dumb question, are they the same round? If not, what is the difference? Thank you

quickdtoo · « **Reply #1 on:** May 16, 2005, 04:25:52 PM »

Sorta....they will chamber in a .223, but they are loaded much hotter. NEF/H&R sends a notice with their .223 rifles not to shoot 5.56 NATO ammo in their rifle. Sorry, it's kinda hard to read.....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/quickdtoo/223Notice.bmp

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wipartimer · « **Reply #2 on:** May 16, 2005, 04:41:39 PM »

Thanks, Quickdtoo, Thats what I was afraid of. I thought I had a line on a good deal for ammo, but I guess I'd better pass.

Moonlitin · « **Reply #3 on:** May 16, 2005, 05:17:39 PM »

wipartimer....where was the good deal on the NATO ammo? I just bought a bunch of Radway Green 62gr fmj from Aim Surplus ($29.95 for 150) for my Saiga .223, but it wasn't much cheaper than the Winchester White box ($12.99 for 50).

I shoot the Winchester White box 45gr jhp in my NEF .223. I've always been tempted to try some of the Remington UMC 45gr jhp ammo. Sometimes the 200 round boxes go on sale at Gander, but even on sale they are still about the same price as the Winchester white box ammo.

Moonlitin

Norseman112 · « **Reply #4 on:** May 17, 2005, 04:20:21 AM »

Glad I came and checked the posts today, My buddy was going to give me some surplus ammo to try in my .223 ultra. Think I will pass to

mitchell · « **Reply #5 on:** May 17, 2005, 04:53:30 AM »

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mt3030 · « **Reply #6 on:** May 17, 2005, 06:09:40 AM »

mitchell,

Can you say "Leade" and "pressure"? Some interesting and educational material. Not saying that surplus ammo isn't used a lot in sporting firearms, just be aware of these differences. And with the majority of 223 Remington chambered Handis having that weak extractor, is there any doubt that these differences could cause extraction problems.

Wally

http://www.thegunzone.com/556v223.html

mitchell · « **Reply #7 on:** May 17, 2005, 08:58:20 AM »

mt3030 after reading you link i fear i might of made a mistake and i don't think i'll be shooting it again (beside cheap reloads shoot better anyway) thanks for the link

Coastwatcher · « **Reply #8 on:** May 17, 2005, 10:20:40 AM »

Live, Learn, Pass it on. I was given a bunch of 5.56 to shoot in my Handi. I tried a couple and although they didn't seem to show high pressure signs I wasn't comfortable with it. The 5.56 wasn't even accurate enough to make it interesting. I passed them on to a buddy with an AR.

Airsporter · « **Reply #9 on:** May 17, 2005, 10:41:43 AM »

Here's a pretty good explanation:

http://www.thegunzone.com/556v223.html

A gun chambered for 5.56NATO is good for both.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #10 on:** May 17, 2005, 11:37:22 AM »

Quote from: Airsporter

Here's a pretty good explanation:

http://www.thegunzone.com/556v223.html

A gun chambered for 5.56NATO is good for both.

Hmmm, looks familiar!!! :wink:

Quote from: earlier mt3030

mitchell,

Can you say "Leade" and "pressure"? Some interesting and educational material. Not saying that surplus ammo isn't used a lot in sporting firearms, just be aware of these differences. And with the majority of 223 Remington chambered Handis having that weak extractor, is there any doubt that these differences could cause extraction problems.

Wally

http://www.thegunzone.com/556v223.html

wipartimer · « **Reply #11 on:** May 17, 2005, 04:54:26 PM »

Thanks again for the warnig, boys. I got some free tracer 5.56 tracer that I was gonna shoot up for fun, Guess I'll pass.

varmitbob · « **Reply #12 on:** May 19, 2005, 04:30:34 PM »

Also, never reload 5.56 casings to .223 reload specs. The cases are thicker, and if it is filled with a powder charge according to the .223 load specs, it will have higher pressure due to the decrease capacity of the 5.56 shell due to its increased wall thickness.
Most powder manufactures advise to back of 10% when reloading 5.56 to the .223 loads, but why take the chance. .223 brass is cheap, just make sure you are getting .223 brass not once fired military brass.