Author Topic: Kemper Military Academy  (Read 2761 times)

0 Members and 3 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline ibfestus

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 78
Kemper Military Academy
« on: February 17, 2003, 06:53:18 AM »
The Kemper Military Academy in Boonville, MO, goes on the auction block in April.  Anybody interested in cannons might want to look into this because they have some historical pieces that will be sold.
:D

Offline Cat Whisperer

  • Trade Count: (2)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7493
  • Gender: Male
  • Pulaski Coehorn Works
Kemper Military Academy
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2003, 03:58:08 PM »
I just looked at the map - looks like Booneville would be easy to get to - right off the interstate.  About a day and a half from here in Virginia.

I would think that some of the folks that haunt the n-ssa site would be interested as well.

Thanks!
Tim K                 www.GBOCANNONS.COM
Cat Whisperer
Chief of Smoke, Pulaski Coehorn Works & Winery
U.S.Army Retired
N 37.05224  W 80.78133 (front door +/- 15 feet)

Offline JinYin_Thew

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Posts: 1
Re: Kemper Military Academy
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2010, 01:04:46 AM »
The Kemper Military Academy in Boonville, MO, goes on the auction block in April.  Anybody interested in cannons might want to look into this because they have some historical pieces that will be sold.

Does it have a web site ... I like to more info ...
I collect ... military fighting knives ...

Offline Max Caliber

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • A Real Regular
  • *****
  • Posts: 524
  • Gender: Male
Re: Kemper Military Academy
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2010, 01:56:49 AM »
I thought that Kemper sold off their cannon several years ago.
Max

Offline intoodeep

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (5)
  • A Real Regular
  • *****
  • Posts: 776
Re: Kemper Military Academy
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2010, 03:27:17 AM »
If you make it idiot proof, then, someone will make a better idiot.


Offline Cannoneer

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3950
Re: Kemper Military Academy
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2010, 12:28:25 AM »
There are two photos of the cannons in the PDF that Intodeep posted, and this is the description given of the two guns that are up for auction:
WATERVLIET ARSENAL Horse Drawn Cannon, 1893, 1207 pounds, # 7, W.S.P., 3 1/2” bore, 57
1/2” Wheel diameter Wood Spoke Wheels, Iron Rims - 2 13/16" wide, Hand Wheel Scissor Jack
Barrel Elevation Mechanism
WATERVLIET ARSENAL Horse Drawn Cannon, 1894, 1202 pounds, #18, S.E.B., 3 1/2” bore, 53”
diameter Wood Spoke Wheels, Iron Rims - 4 3/16" wide, Hand Wheel Scissor Jack Barrel Elevation Mechanism



The two cannons are 3.6-inch Breech loading Rifles, and can be seen on p.127 of this Google digital book. These rifles are basically just larger versions of the 3.2-inch BL Field Rifle Model of 1890, and the bigger bore gun used the same carriage as the 3.2-inch rifle. A drawing of the "lazy tongs" elevating device (described as "Hand Wheel Scissor Jack Barrel Elevation Mechanism" in the PDF) is shown on p.111, fig. 34.
3.6-inch Breech Loading Rifle

RIP John. While on vacation July 4th 2013 in northern Wisconsin, he was ATVing with family and pulled ahead of everyone and took off at break-neck speed without a helmet. He lost control.....hit a tree....and the tree won.  He died instantly.

The one thing that you can almost always rely on research leading to, is more research.

Offline KABAR2

  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2830
Re: Kemper Military Academy
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2010, 04:09:06 AM »
I always liked that gun, there is one up in NY near where I lived
it was rotting away in a traffic island I started making inquiries to
find out what group owned it once interest was shown in it they
decided to have new wheels made and restore it..... I may not have
been able to get it but at least it got restored.......

I wish I could afford to bid on one of these....
Mr president I do not cling to either my gun or my Bible.... my gun is holstered on my side so I may carry my Bible and quote from it!

Sed tamen sal petrae LURO VOPO CAN UTRIET sulphuris; et sic facies tonituum et coruscationem si scias artficium

Offline Ex 49'er

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (8)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1975
  • Gender: Male
Re: Kemper Military Academy
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2010, 05:19:00 AM »
The heck with buying just one. Buy the whole school and contents. Looks like a great place to shoot cannons. You could tow the cannons around with one of the jeeps in the auction.   ;D
When you're walking on eggs; don't hop!!

Offline KABAR2

  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2830
Re: Kemper Military Academy
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2010, 06:35:03 AM »
The heck with buying just one. Buy the whole school and contents. Looks like a great place to shoot cannons. You could tow the cannons around with one of the jeeps in the auction.   ;D

Why don't we do it as a group buy and keep it as a military college

DD the Comadant

Catwisperer  the Dean of students

M&T engineering & aerodymics

 KABAR2  Small arms training/repair Gunsmithing

Rocklock professor of the arts.....
Mr president I do not cling to either my gun or my Bible.... my gun is holstered on my side so I may carry my Bible and quote from it!

Sed tamen sal petrae LURO VOPO CAN UTRIET sulphuris; et sic facies tonituum et coruscationem si scias artficium

Offline Cannoneer

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3950
Re: Kemper Military Academy
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2010, 08:28:14 AM »
In reality, there's the possibility that come the day of the auction there might be a face in the audience that we'd recognize. The photo of one of the guns seen at the end of the document that Intoodeep posted shows a tube and carriage that seem to be in pretty good condition for a cannon displayed outdoors. The wooden spokes of the wheels don't give the impression that any proactive maintenance has been being carried out in recent times, but it sounds by the description of one of the cannons that the carriage still has its original 57 3/4-inch diam. wheels, while the other carriage's wheels have been replaced with some smaller diameter, but wider substitutes.



RIP John. While on vacation July 4th 2013 in northern Wisconsin, he was ATVing with family and pulled ahead of everyone and took off at break-neck speed without a helmet. He lost control.....hit a tree....and the tree won.  He died instantly.

The one thing that you can almost always rely on research leading to, is more research.

Offline jeeper1

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • A Real Regular
  • ****
  • Posts: 662
  • Gender: Male
Re: Kemper Military Academy
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2010, 12:51:23 PM »
This thread is 7 years old according to the date/time on the first post.
I may not be completely sane, but at least I don't think I have the power to influence the weather.

Offline Terry C.

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1215
  • Gender: Male
  • I see what you did there...
Re: Kemper Military Academy
« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2010, 01:03:46 PM »
Yes, and so is the PDF (Created: Friday, February 21, 2003, 8:44:07 AM).

Offline dan610324

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2413
  • Gender: Male
  • bronze cannons and copper stills ;-))
    • dont have
Re: Kemper Military Academy
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2010, 01:34:51 PM »
he he he   ;D
Dan Pettersson
a swedish cannon maniac
interested in early bronze guns

better safe than sorry

Offline KABAR2

  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2830
Re: Kemper Military Academy
« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2010, 03:01:36 PM »
 

Yeah..... I guess we should look at the top of the page for the date....... Oh well.....


http://www.maascompanies.com/kemper.asp

 

Mr president I do not cling to either my gun or my Bible.... my gun is holstered on my side so I may carry my Bible and quote from it!

Sed tamen sal petrae LURO VOPO CAN UTRIET sulphuris; et sic facies tonituum et coruscationem si scias artficium

Offline intoodeep

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (5)
  • A Real Regular
  • *****
  • Posts: 776
Re: Kemper Military Academy
« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2010, 03:20:41 PM »
This thread is 7 years old according to the date/time on the first post.

 Oh, that's funny!!!!  :D :D I guess time really flies.....  Now, that I look back at the fine print I see the year.
If you make it idiot proof, then, someone will make a better idiot.


Offline Ex 49'er

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (8)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1975
  • Gender: Male
Re: Kemper Military Academy
« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2010, 03:33:36 PM »
ooooppsy-daisy!!!!!!!!!   :-[
When you're walking on eggs; don't hop!!

Offline Cannoneer

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3950
Re: Kemper Military Academy
« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2010, 06:16:17 PM »
Well, yuk yuk yuk, that was one good gag, but what the heck; while it's now highly probable ;) that it would be pointless to attend the auction on April 4th at 9:00 AM, I think it was well worth the effort travelling back in time to revisit, and comment upon some examples of historic American ordnance.:D
RIP John. While on vacation July 4th 2013 in northern Wisconsin, he was ATVing with family and pulled ahead of everyone and took off at break-neck speed without a helmet. He lost control.....hit a tree....and the tree won.  He died instantly.

The one thing that you can almost always rely on research leading to, is more research.

Offline Zulu

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2477
  • Honor is a gift a man gives himself.
    • Wood & Ironworks
Re: Kemper Military Academy
« Reply #17 on: February 16, 2010, 03:04:22 AM »
Does this mean DD can't be "Comadant"? :D
Zulu's website
www.jmelledge.com