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Offline deerstalker

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« on: February 17, 2003, 02:10:07 PM »
I have a Ruger Blackhawk 6 1/2"  just loaded up some 235gr.swrfngc, over 19gr.of H-110, and 235gr.swrfngc over 8grs of titegroup. Do you think it will do as much damage on a deer at 50 yards as a 200 gr.jhp. over 20gr of H-110? Rick.. :roll:

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« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2003, 02:42:12 PM »
If DEAD = DAMAGE--I vote yes. In one side, out the other with a big hole in between and blood/lungs all over the ground sounds good to me. What more can you ask for?
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« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2003, 03:25:31 PM »
I've got the same Blackhawk (well, er, different serial #) and use the 210 grain Lee slugs (got to get a heavier mold) with 8.0 grains of Universal.  Based on the fresh memory of this year's 3-deer hunt, I'll stick with cast bullets to be sure the slug exits whatever the angle.  My  :money:
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Re: ? for you .41 mag Fans..
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2003, 02:32:15 PM »
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I have a Ruger Blackhawk 6 1/2"  just loaded up some 235gr.swrfngc, over 19gr.of H-110, and 235gr.swrfngc over 8grs of titegroup. Do you think it will do as much damage on a deer at 50 yards as a 200 gr.jhp. over 20gr of H-110? Rick.. :roll:


Rick
I've taken a total of three deer with a handgun, so I don't profess to be an expert.  Two were taken with a 44 Mag out of a TC contender, one with 180 gr sierra JHC and, the one in my avatar, with a 200 gr Nosler JHP.
The third was a small doe with a 357 Mag Contender and a 170 gr cast SWC.  All deer died with one shot.  I would say the light for caliber JHP will kill quicker on a broadside shot, but having said that, shoot the bullet that is most accurate in your gun and you will kill the deer if you hit it in the right spot.  Deer really aren't all that hard to kill.
Please help me out here, what is a swrfngc?  I figure a cast semi wadcutter, gas check, maybe flat nose, am I close?
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« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2003, 04:31:18 PM »
Deerstalker,
Your loads with H110 are as good as it gets but the Titegroup load that you list is a bit under what I would call a serious hunting load.
I would also like to see expanding bullets that will make a larger wound channel rather than a caliber size hole all the way through.

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« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2003, 03:36:13 AM »
I've harvested deer with both 210 cast and jacketed hollow points and haven't noticed much difference. On lung shots the deer shot with cast bullets have taken, literaly, another step or two than those shot with jacketed bullets. A couple of my shots with cast  went high into the spine and totaly destroyed it.  I'm sure that 235 gr. will do a great job.

swrfngc... semiwadcutter round flat nose gas checked ?
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« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2003, 08:17:31 PM »
First off let me say that I'm a heavy bullet guy (250g and heavier) BUT to get REALLY spectacular deer kills with your .41RemMag load the Sierra or Speer 170 jacketed heavy (hint max loads in all the current manuals are real pussycats I'm talking MOUNTAIN LION) The loads I use are safe in my guns, only you can find out what is safe in yours. A fast 170 in the heart/lung area of a deer will just be devastating and shuts them down right quick.  :eek:
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« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2003, 02:59:08 PM »
For deer-sized game, I like the Speer 200gr. SJHP. I've gotten exits on broadside shots with a little evidence of expansion in bigger deer. I've had the Sierra 170grJHC not penetrate on full frontal chest shots on large mulies. When I go to hardcast lead, it's my old standard 250gr.WFNGC cast from a NEI mold. This thing has never failed me on the larger game species. In my OM Blackhawk I use 7 grains of Unique. For the Redhawks it's a large dollop on W296. YMMV, RKBA! 8)
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« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2003, 03:19:43 PM »
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7 grains unique that is light!
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« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2003, 06:06:36 PM »
I too am not an expert on the deer killing( I shot 5) -- I have shot Lord only knows how many .41s- anyway on a TN. whitetail at 55 yards a 220 Lyman 410459 - Keith type went in one side and out the other centering the heart -- the hole in the heart was slightly larger than my thumb about .700 --yes I measured my thumb - -- the load was 20 grains of h110 in a 6.5 Blackhawk --mzv was about 1180 or so -- three hops and down dead -- sometimes my .358 win lets them run farther than that -- but I would say the second  load is too light to hunt with although I would not want to get in front of either of them--  :lol:

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« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2003, 09:50:25 PM »
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Yeah, it was meant to be a more or less plinking load. I've collected over a dozen large-bodied mule deer with it though. Targets of opportunity were all over when I still lived on a ranch. I use considerably hotter loads in my FAs and Redhawks for hunting. I also use powder puff loads in my .45ACP for informal, close range target practice or a .22LR conversion. This is done for proper breath control, sight picture, and follow through; not to see how hot a load I can withstand. I beat myself up with my .475Linebaugh. :wink:
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« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2003, 12:21:09 AM »
Getting ready to start hand loading for my .41   tracker  ,    Anyone tried the Rem. 200 gr.ers? Useing H110  ?
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« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2003, 08:36:50 AM »
I have shot a bunch of them -- I can get into the mid-low 1400 fps-- in all three of my .41s  2 5.5 "Redhawks and a 6" DWA-- I have used several powder 296/H110 and 2400 -- velocity is close for all three -- blast is  reduced with 2400 though-- I put one through a large whitetail Doe good expansion --I found the bullet in the ground  behind her-- I have hunted withem some the last two years but with only that one doe -- but I like them -- I wish they had the scollped jacket like some of the other Remingtons.