Author Topic: Fireforming loads for the 14" T/C 7-30 waters (Read 927 times)

FireMarshal91 · « **on:** May 29, 2005, 09:10:49 AM »

Anyone out in TC land have any recommneded fireforming loads for the 7-30 waters?

I am a new owner of a 14" SS TC 7-30 waters with a muzzle break. I plan on using necked down 30-30 brass as the main diet for the barrel.

Anyone have any recommendation?

Thanks,

Jason

MnMike · « **Reply #1 on:** May 29, 2005, 02:44:37 PM »

I just use a reduced load of normal powder (31 gr of W748 for instance). I size the neck so the action just closes. Don't worry, be happy -this is not rocket science, just use a load at the bottom of the recomended, not below. I have actually had some good groups while fireforming.

Good luck
mike

fast*eddie · « **Reply #2 on:** May 29, 2005, 04:08:14 PM »

I asked the same question on here a few years ago and got the same answer and then someone said , use a regular load instead of reduced. I took the wrong bullets hunting and shot a doe at 55 yards while fire forming a 30-30 case . :-)

FireMarshal91 · « **Reply #3 on:** May 29, 2005, 04:32:05 PM »

Thanks for the information as I really appreciate it.

Do I need to worry about annealing the necks of the case after resizing the 30-30 to the 7-30?

Thanks again,

Jason :grin:

ShootnStr8 · « **Reply #4 on:** May 30, 2005, 03:10:58 AM »

Firemarshal,

I've been following the same procedure Eddie suggested and also have killed deer while fireforming. For some reason, the fireforming loads seem a bit more accurate than the others. You shouldn't have to anneal the cases. I've never had any problem and I'm using 30 year old range brass my dad had laying around. I believe you find fireforming for the 7-30 Waters easy.

Blessings!

ShootnStr8

FireMarshal91 · « **Reply #5 on:** May 30, 2005, 06:47:42 AM »

Thanks for the information as I just wanted to cover all my bases before I dive into 7-30 waters reloading.

I'll be getting a 35 Remington barrel this coing week in a 14" TC. That should be fun also. I'm sure I'll have questions for ya all. I'll do a search of the forum page before asking.

Again, thanks Grey forum for answewring my questions.

Jason

P.S. Happy Memorial Day to all those individuals who have served and gave us freadom.

Steve P · « **Reply #6 on:** June 03, 2005, 03:57:49 PM »

Set your sizing die to size the neck on your 30-30 brass so the gun has to close with a firm effort. Shoot about 12 grains of unique and a cast bullet or jacketed bullet in the 150 grain range. This will size your brass good and is a pretty accurate load to shoot varmints with.

Good Luck,

Steve

jdsilwones · « **Reply #7 on:** June 06, 2005, 02:59:41 PM »

I noticed with mine that the shoulders were not quite sharp with a min load. I used a hunting load on the next set (new Win 30-30 brass) and they were nice. Not sure if it made any dif. but I like it right the first time.
I love my 7-30, enjoy!

45LC-Man · « **Reply #8 on:** June 19, 2005, 01:20:18 AM »

Why waste perfectly good bullets? Use 10 grains of Unique in a neck sized and primed .30-30 case topped off with a case full of Cream of Wheat to the base of the neck. Then stick a tuft of cotton or toilet paper into the neck with a Q-tip. I have used this to fireform my Waters cases and they fill out nicely. If you have children this is a safe way to get them used to firearms. Of course, you still need to be ever vigilent even when letting them use this method of practice. One day at the range while doing this there was a young boy there with his Dad and he had the time of his life fireforming my cases for me. I read of this method of fireforming in some magazine years ago when the Whisper was new.

dammyankee · « **Reply #9 on:** June 19, 2005, 09:19:01 AM »

:grin: Be careful using the cream of wheat method unless you don't want your muzzle break anymore as it tends to rip them off the barrel in short order.Just a heads up. :roll:

fast*eddie · « **Reply #10 on:** June 20, 2005, 11:36:38 AM »

Why waste perfectly good powder and breakfast when you can use a regular load for fire forming and hunting at the same time ? :roll:

45LC-Man · « **Reply #11 on:** June 21, 2005, 01:31:49 PM »

Yankee, I don't use muzzle brakes as they are more trouble than they are worth. Too much noise for a cartridge that produces very little recoil.

Eddie, I just don't have an answer for that one.

dammyankee · « **Reply #12 on:** June 22, 2005, 05:57:07 AM »

:grin: 45LC,I only posted the warning so that firemarshall91 would not try it in his 7-30 waters,The cream of wheat fireforming rips the Muzzle breaks off of the T.C.s.after a few shots.

I have a muzzle break on my 7-30 12 inch and wish it wasn't there,I may use your method just to remove it and get it over with.

45LC-Man · « **Reply #13 on:** June 22, 2005, 11:06:48 AM »

Yankee..... LOL :-D :-D

wheelgun · « **Reply #14 on:** June 24, 2005, 04:27:10 PM »

I had two 7-30 barrels both had brakes.I cut the brake off the 14"and recrowned the barrel.It shoots great and not as loud as it was.I swapped the other barrel for a 30-30 14" with no brake.The 7-30 is such a mild caliber I don't see why they put a brake on them .The only barrel I own with a brake is the 45-70.If I shoot alot of heavy loads in my 375 JDJ a brake might be nice but it would not be a T/C muzzle Tamer.